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Well, we have our answer. FSD 11.3.6 (2023.12.10) is installing right now. Looking forward to trying it out finally! I kind of miss it since I gave up my MX a couple of months ago. Don't believe the nay-sayers.

Can't stand the anticipation! Also, I see that new testers ARE joining, at least according to TESLAFI: 108 subscribers yesterday, 42 the day before, 56 the day before that.

Yes, the FSD Request button is greyed out. From the message next to it, it implies that the button becomes active only once you've got a version of the firmware that *is* (has?) FSD Beta built in. I suppose I have to cling to that thread of a hope or kiss yet another $200 good-bye as I wait for...

I have a Model Y with firmware 2023.6.11 currently installed. I've ignored the past couple of updates (2023.12 & 2023.12.5) because I wanted to be able to get the FSD Beta when it finally advanced to the 2023 versions. When I saw that the 2023.7.5 (FSD 11.4.1) started releasing to more and...

mctnin, Yes, it was a tough decision. I ended up making a list of things about the MX that I liked and that were not so great. I've pasted that below if that can help. Keep in mind that a lot of these are subjective... In addition to the below, I have to say the two things that affected me...

I had FSDb in a 2017 Model X and was enjoying the experience of the month-by-month improvements. Then, in March, I traded it in for a new Model Y. The Y shipped with 2023.2.100. I also didn't know at the time that my current Firmware version would prevent me from "updating" to the older...

I just wanted to follow up on this thread. I recently (March) traded in my MX for a new MY and the following distance has been night and day. Where the Model X was following crazy close to the traffic ahead of me, the Model Y leaves MUCH safer follow distances. In fact, I now typically...

I am now running version 2022.44.25.5 and am still not seeing this option available to me. The release notes from notateslaapp.com indicate that it should be available on all models of cars, and I *thought* I saw it in my car's own release notes at one time, but I just checked and don't see...

I agree with the sense of jerkiness, although it has MUCH improved with the FSD Beta. IMHO the biggest weakness of FSD from a passenger-comfort POV is that it still seems entirely reactionary. When there is traffic stopped ahead, or a car ahead of the car in front of me is slowing to turn onto...

LOL! Yes, that would certainly be right up Elon’s alley.

For me, distance 7 is just under two seconds all the time once we hit steady state regardless of speed. On the highway when traffic speeds are varying, 7 seems to be a bit laggy in keeping up when the cars ahead of me accelerate to the extent that I can be pretty far behind, but then it...

I'm a relatively conservative driver. I don't like to be closer than about 2 seconds behind the person in front of me and, after a defensive driving course, I'm just as happy 2 1/2 - 3 seconds behind. In my 2017 MX (MCU2, AP 3.0 or "Full Self Driving Computer" as reported by the car) I have...

I received my notice from Tesla a couple of days ago and was able to schedule the camera update service for Nov 8 via mobile service. Fingers crossed that all the pieces come together properly.

I’m in Georgia in the exact same situation as you except with a 75D. And nary a peep from Tesla regarding the camera upgrade.

2017 MX 75D with 58,000 miles on it. A healthy mix of short, medium, and long trips over the years. I'm showing 365 Wh/Mile in Tesla Fi overall and looking at my largest trip meter it shows that for the past 9,840 Miles I've averaged 351 Wh/Mile. I live in the Southern US so I get *some* cool...

I have an older Model X (2017) for which my safety score is just being CRUSHED with superfluous FCWs. I *just* finished a 6 mile drive to pick up some food and was presented with a safety score of... 4. It gave me a 101.9 FCW/1000 mile average. I never actually received any alerts while...

I did a trip to Chick-Fil-A yesterday that covered 7 miles. Safety score of 40 driven almost entirely by Forward collision warnings (101.9 avg that trip). I can only assume that the drive-thru line is what killed me. I honestly leave 2-3 seconds between my car and the ones ahead of me since...

I'm operating under the thought that my mixed hardware + low volume model (Model X) is confusing the safety score. The mixed hardware (AP 2.0 with FSD Computer update + MCU2 updated from MCU1) already was responsible for my battery issues which ultimately required a firmware update to correct...

I did some quick math and my range loss was right at about 16 km/day before my sleep started working properly. So I feel you. I had a trip where I left my car parked waiting for me for 7 days and ended up losing about 30% of my charge. I was very lucky that they had a level 2 charger on site so...

Tesla also had me stop using all 3rd party apps while we were troubleshooting this issue (I regret missing gather stats for a couple of trips, but you've gotta do what you've gotta do). And during that period I wasn't able to tell if the car was sleeping with the granularity that TeslaFi...

It looks like this is not the case. I had a drive today (about 75 miles) which I am able to do almost entirely on AP. There are a couple of construction zones and challenging areas where I will always take over, but AP is in control for the most part. As the OP noted, AP can be a little late to...

In case anybody is still monitoring this thread, it seems that my Model X is now (finally) aggressively sleeping since the 2021.24.5 update. I mean it's night and day. Where it was sleeping pretty well before, often alternating 16 minutes sleep, 45 minutes idle for much of the day, ever since...

I have had this happen twice now. Both times associated with a firmware update. I've had the car for nearly 4 years and this has only happened in the past few months: the 2020.48.30 (January 4 for me) and 2021.4.18 (May 17 for me) updates both did me in. I had the FSD and MCU updates done last...

Hi Marsh1n, I can say "Nope". There honestly is no rhyme or reason to it. The most familiar cycle for my car is that, when still plugged in after charging it goes into the 18 minute Sleep / 3 minute idle loop and will do that for hours. Today I unplugged the car around 8:00 AM after 13 such...

Thanks Phlier, I did some searching before posting but apparently didn't know the right term to get any hits. I'll reboot the car again and see if that clears it up.

MX owner here with the update. It's not super obvious now that it's warming up here but I notice that my regen has not been limited at the beginning of my drives even though the temperature is in the mid-to-low 50's. Normally I'm missing a good hunk of regen even at those relatively warm...

KDeanCville, The download should happen automatically. Sometimes I find I need to reboot the car in order to "encourage" new downloads if I know they are out there but you shouldn't need to do anything. But you will ALWAYS need to actually install the update. You'll see an icon on your screen...

Since receiving the 2021.4.12 update on my Model X, I am now seeing these ... Halos? Warnings? At the 4 corners of the visualization of my car when in motion. This is on the front instrument cluster so I don't know if M3/MY folks would see anything similar. When I stop they go away. It doesn't...

Has anybody noticed that the brake lights for the car's avatar no longer activate when the real life brake lights come on since this update? I like to keep an eye on what I'm broadcasting to cars behind me when using TACC and I no longer see any indications of brake lights on the car's avatar...

OK, I have to take that back. I was out today and, while my memory is *certain* that the selected letter was Blue yesterday, it's quite definitely White today. I also notice that, while my headlights are represented correctly (on or off) on my car's avatar on the instrument cluster. My brake...

Definitely that blue "D" was part of 2020.48.26. That creative driving visualization situation you've got going on however... I hear that happens when you hit mach 1... :) Hopefully a reboot will solve that for you.

It looks like the remaining pieces have resolved themselves on their own which I'm not so sure I appreciate. The settings complaining about "not supported in current region" (Navigate on Autopilot, Traffic light and stop sign control, Full Self-Driving Visualization Preview) were working by the...

Not at first. It was showing me as being in Palo Alto (satellite map *was* showing). Subsequent restarts had the map come up blank with my car icon on it, no idea where it thought I was at that point. But a hard restart (power off for 3 minutes, etc.) and a few double scroll-wheel restarts...

An additional Tidbit, restarting the car a couple more times has reinstated the navigation information (I kind of thought it might still be there because I could see maps on the screen). But I just noticed that Several features show as "not supported in current region" - Navigate on Autopilot -...

Yes, there is a miscommunication between the legacy battery system and the new MCU. Basically the legacy system was returning status information that the MCU was not able to interpret correctly. There was also something else in the mix that would lead to the system misinterpreting something...

I appreciate you taking the time to post. You never know what gem of information might be the key!

Yes, I've updated the MCU to the latest (did this in June) and also had them install the new FSD computer. I *did* have a whole debacle after that update where my 12V battery was dying every couple of weeks. But Tesla has sorted that all out for me. So the car is (was) working fine as of late.

Whoops! Yes, kind of basic information to leave out! The car was manufactured 3/17. It's a Model X 75D

Anybody else have issues with the 2020.48.30 update? I just (finally) received it this morning and applied it. Once done - everything looked normal, I went to the car and restarted it (press the two scroll wheels until screens go black). I have found my car is always a bit wonky after an...

Hi Shawn, You're doing better than me. Looking at the raw data I noticed that TeslaFi seems to allow for 1 more "ignore poll" event than I have specified (i.e. if I put in a 5 it will go up to a maximum of 6). I noticed that when I set the delay to 10 or 11, it would almost never go above 7. So...

Hi Shawn, I found that the poll delay value set to 10 minutes had me missing the first part of several drives. But setting it to 1 or 2 would prevent my car from sleeping for a decent amount of time when plugged in. After some playing around I found that I could *maybe* go as low as 6 minutes...

I got the 2020.44.15 firmware update a few days ago and, since then, my car has started sleeping as it should (many hours at a time). Is anybody else seeing this improved behavior? Marc

Hmmm... as of the 2020.44.15 firmware update the car is sleeping consistently even when plugged in. Anybody else seeing this?

Overall, to round out this posting: 1) 12V battery issue is resolved 2) Phantom Drain issue is manageable - it's worst when plugged in but then.. it's plugged in so the car tops off during scheduled charging each night when plugged in. 3) TeslaFi is still my favorite app and my confidence in it...

Thank you Shawn, I did a bunch of testing with the "Polling Delay After Waking Up" setting and it got me most of the way to where I want to be. At least I can now use TeslaFi with confidence again. I was *this* close to just discarding the app since it was clear it was impactful on my car's...

I just came off an extended bout (3 months) with the Tesla SC where, shortly after upgrading my 2017 MX from AP2/MCU1 to AP2HW3/MCU2 the 12 volt battery started dying every couple of weeks. The experience forced me to re-evaluate what apps/accessories I wanted to have running and the impact...

cwied, did you find the car was able to sleep both when plugged in and not plugged in? Setting the option to a "1" or "2" resolved the issue for me where TeslaFi itself was keeping the car awake when unplugged (11 min sleep / 46 min idle) all the time. Now the car only cycles when it's plugged in.

TL;DR - Car is back, 12V battery dying issue appears resolved primarily by firmware update, Phantom drain appears much improved. Honestly, I do have a life outside of my Tesla, but you wouldn't know it to read the following... 12V Battery issue/Fix I'm not a mechanic or a Tesla System expert...

Hi dailo, As a matter of fact, I went to the SC this past Tuesday and spoke with the service manager along with their chief engineer and two other folks. They had worked with the California engineers and the long-awaited firmware fix was to be pushed down this week after which they wanted to...

dailo, If it helps, they believe some of the issues I'm dealing with are also due to a firmware bug. They didn't have a timeline for a fix as of when I spoke with them yesterday but they are supposed to pursue it and have some kind of ETA when we speak again on Tuesday. So, if it's a canned...