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@Marcboy I have never heard of any battery getting replaced due to degradation. The HV battery does get replaced for some, but it is due to other failure mechanisms, not battery degradation. I have always thought the 30% degradation number given by Tesla on newer cars is somewhat a red herring -...

MCU2 will give you alternate routes. I fully think that Tesla should have paid for MCU2 updates for cars that purchased FSD since it seems to be necessary hardware. But it’s not a hill that I am willing to die on and for me, I am really glad that I just got the MCU2 update as soon as it was...

EAP has the all-important (to me) lane change on highways. And I have been in unfamiliar cities when the Navigation on Autopilot changing of highways has been important to me. So EAP is good, but I really don’t care anything about Summons. As I have used FSD Beta for several years now, I have...

Tesla changed the price for FSD last night. It is $8k for those who have basic autopilot and $2k for those with EAP.

You will get the HW3 update and the cameras, if needed. But you will have to pay for the MCU2 update.

Why oh why isn’t this a thing on the model X? The model 3, model Y and model S all have middle arm rests for the back seat.

I prefer the phone as key but the legacy model X key fob works for me in a totally passive mode. I have not touched it in years, it just has to be buried in something I am carrying. It will passively unlock all doors without touching the fob. Here are my settings. I am guessing you may have the...

An end of 2016 would be essentially the same as a beginning 2017. A beginning of 2016 vs an end of 2017 would be pretty different.

V12 is currently only on 2024.3.*. OTA updates can’t go backwards. You have to wait for FSD V12 to get to a 2024.8.* or higher number version.

What makes your 2017 a unicorn?

What did service center say?

@Averdi, that 2017 model X ‘s VIN is within 1000 of mine. I have had it since it was new and it has been a good car. Your question about FSD…. I have FSD beta on my 2017 model X. It has performed essentially the same as FSD on my model 3. It has gotten all the same FSD updates until V12 2...

I think so. I can confirm that I have interchanged lug nut covers for a 2013 model S (19” wheels), a 2017 model X (20” wheels), and a 2018 model 3 (18” wheels).

No it does not. The turn signal does not bring up the side camera view on my 2017 model X (with MCU2.) I believe this feature was never added for any of the vertical screen cars. I have wondered why not. It is indeed at the top of my list for things that this legacy car is missing.

@billionaiire, I don’t know why you are getting such negative responses and very little content in the responses. I have not been shopping for a used Tesla so I do not know what they are going for. But to me, this sounds like a good deal. The long range plus was the last of the vertical screens...

It can have FSD capability listed as a spec on the car without having the ability to download FSD Beta because of MCU1. Statistically, a 2018 is more likely to have MCU2 tho.

You would want to know if it has MCU1 or MCU2. Builds before April 2018 had MCU1 but it could have been upgraded to MCU2 for about $2500. I have essentially your currently model 3 and this model X (mine is late 2017, very similar to 2018). I love the model X but it has always felt much more...

Yes, I understand that now, but Tesla doesn’t tell you that. Thus the value of these forums. This thread was the most helpful I found on the subject. Sorry that you found my post adding no value.

And yes, I wanted to confirm because there was some conflicting guidance in this thread, indicating it might be possible to get a FSD version without it being FSD Beta. I don’t think that is ever true any more.

Or longer is the key phrase here. I got this version 8 days ago and there is still no FSD version noted in Teslafi.

I can confirm that although Teslafi doesn’t show any FSD Beta version associated with 2024.8.4 (my version), I just subscribed to FSD and got FSD Beta 11.4.9.

Here is a thread with someone else with grayed out name. My takeaway was that Tesla needs to reset something to let you rename it. Trouble Registering 2016 Model X we just purchased No, not normal!

@Odysseus007, wow that is a long list of things. I also have a late 2017 100D, 7 seater, black. Like @scottf200, first thing I wonder about is your MCU status. If it is MCU1 did it have eMMC chip replaced, or even better, has it been upgraded to MCU2? My car often had a wide array of varying...

I thought interior cameras were introduced with the 2021/2022-ish refresh. If so, all vertical screens are missing interior cameras and are referred to as legacy by Tesla. I believe the vertical screen and the lack of interior cameras could delay the roll out to us. For example, no interior...

Pre-nose cone refresh cars were pre-AP2. No possibility of FSD.

And I would note that the above picture cut off a bottom line that is another Model X refresh number, so the numbers do add up for both the model s and model X. The years and the plaid/refresh are just a different way to slice the same data. I think it is quite certain that no vertical screen...

Teslafi clearly shows FSD12 only on 2023.* versions. Back when it took some time and mystery to get FSD Beta, I know that there were a number of people who traded in a FSD Beta car, purchased FSD on their new car, only to get in line to wait to get FSD Beta again. So while there is a program to...

I don’t know that you are catching that some of us on this thread ARE the “early” FSD beta testers, but have legacy model X’s, and have been moved from the 2023 branch, where we were in line for V12, to the 2024 line. We are all too well understanding we are no longer in line. I consider my...

I have a 2017 model X with 89,000 miles. Obsidian black. No ppf. Hardly any chips. I would say it has held up much better than average.

Yeah, I installed the 2024 version. I always just say yes to new updates and then later see what changes they bring. My gut reaction was just that they have taken us out of the leading edge of the development, not that they will stop giving us FSD updates. I hope that is the case, but this...

No. Tesla refers to all vertical screen cars as legacy. There are many vertical screen model S and X’s that came with the FSD computer and many more that didn’t need the exterior cameras upgraded. Many legacy S/X’s needed no hardware updates for FSD. My 2017 model X with MCU2 and originally...

A Plaid with 22” wheels holds no appeal for me. A rough ride, lower efficiency and acceleration I would never need nor use. And it’s 2 years old with 2 years less warranty and 2 years of little changes not included. And the FSD would mean something to me. I just bought a 2023 model S with only...

I would notice if unexpected charges showed up on my credit card. But I’m not sure most people would notice within 2 weeks. Regardless, one of the best things about Tesla is the app access. You really should get that, both for your own convenience and to secure your car.

If it shows a $ amount in the car for your last supercharging session, then it is not free supercharging. If it shows $0, then it has free supercharging. Another test is simply to look at any supercharging location on the map in the car. Cars with free supercharging don’t list the $/kWh price.

@Rot rjn the owner of the Tesla account associated with the VIn gets charged. Unless it has free supercharging. When you supercharge, does it show a $ value? If so, someone else is paying. As long as it is on someone else’s account, they can see wherever the car is, can access it and drive it. I...

@DingoStar, FSD stays with the car when it is transferred to another account. The OP’s question was linked to whether there was any special stipulation because the car in question had belonged to a Tesla employee who got FSD for free.

You are in a thread about the 2021 model X range.

Never heard of such a thing. Can you point to a source?

No one doubts, at least I don’t doubt, your window sticker. Anyone who has been around for awhile knows the price structure was $5k for EAP and $3k for FSD. It was that for the first 2+ years. I don’t think it is a full apples-to-apples comparison to the costs today because Tesla restructured...

For those of us with OCD, energy is kWh not kW. Yes, sentry mode uses a lot. Without sentry mode you should expect about 1 kWh loss per day. With sentry mode, the estimates vary but my experience was about 5 kWh per day. I am not sure what disconnect message you are referring to. In general...

@jkim157, does the noise change with the seat position? Move it forward or back? I don’t remember the details of the sound, but we did have a noise in this same seat. When all the way back, it was rubbing against the FWD.

Just as an example of how easy it is to “gain range,” here is my 100D at 211 miles. Blink of an eye, it has 265 miles. 211 rated miles vs 265 ideal miles. Nothing indicates rated vs ideal on the IC screen. Nothing changes except a bigger number is displayed, which is even further away from...

The warranty paid for an infotainment upgrade? As in MCU1 to MCU2?

Just curious…. Why do you need things opened from afar?

Your links are not relevant to a 2016 model X 75D.

Sounds like your display setting changed from rated miles to ideal miles, which is 25% higher. Go to the display menu and change it back to rated miles. You will find yourself back to 211 miles. No, your battery was not software locked and no one suddenly gave you more battery capacity.

You first mention a problem with it not closing as you leave then mentioned it trying to close on the car as you back into the garage. I assume these are 2 separate concerns. Can you clarify the problem when it tries to close on the car? Has it auto-opened for you as you arrived, and then it...

My local Firestone had dealt with my model X several times when they suddenly changed their tune and said similar things.

@theflyer, so is it a specific game to stop at as many as superchargers as possible? I specifically notice you have hit all 5 east of Pittsburgh on the turnpike and most on I-81 in Virginia. Two locations I looked at the details.

A few random thoughts: I have no idea what an infotainment upgrade means for a 2020. That is usually referring to a MCU1 to MCU2 conversion, but 2020’s came with MCU2. 22” tires reduce your range and are easier to have tire/rim issues. Many choose them anyway. I would not. The previous repair...