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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    I agree. Ontario is indeed a small piece of the pie. But the same underlying principles exists in all Tesla markets. Claiming to make an affordable EV for the masses - but turning around and instead trying to up-sell or push what people may not be able to afford - under the guise of "if...
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    These are the salient facts as I understand them: - Tesla is for profit business with an environmental consciousness angle/slant. - Tesla said they were manufacturing an EV vehicle for the masses at some future dates - They are very smart folks. They crunched their numbers and checked their...
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    This might be true. But, the Model 3 was being advertised as bring EV to the masses. I feel I am one of the more [lucky] masses - and that is why I don't drive a Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Porsche etc. If the car was not advertised or promoted as being affordable - I would not have looked at it...
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    I don't have any direct evidence. Just common sense and logic... which I applied and showed in the Pizza manufacturing analogy : 1 topping vs 10 toppings. Which is easier or quicker or cheaper to make ?
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    I am NOT suggesting Tesla ship less profitable cars. They could have easily let people configure and order the cars they really wanted or could afford and kept the future delivery dates !!!!!!!!! p.s. Please rest assure that there is profit even in the least expensive TESLA cars. Tesla is a...
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    You are right. The Government is responsible for the EV rebate going away. No doubt. Pizza Pallor : - One day only sale - all Pizzas are tax free for ALL orders "placed" by mid-night today. - But please note that due to Government guidelines and red tape you have to ORDER your pizza today...
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    Yes - I partly blame the Government. But I am used to their incompetencies. I rely on my sweat and blood and vote with my wallet. Tesla is a for profit business. I consulted my wallet and my conscience and decided to do business with Tesla and NOT the government. Tesla could have done more...
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    I would sell or do the thing that gives me the quickest infusion of cash with the smallest effort. Here is a simple rough and exaggerated calculation: 100,000 Model 3 Base El Cheapo x $45,000 = $4,500,000,000 20,000 Model 3 Performance AWD blah x $75,000 = $1,500,000,000
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    You see - there is also a reason why +450,000 people reserved the Model 3 and NOT the model S or X. Affordability. I ordered/reserved the Model 3 BECAUSE it was promoted at the price I could afford after rebates and all had been factored in.
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    IMHO - If Tesla was hurting for money for Salaries, R/D, building etc - All Tesla had to do was - open up their online configurator to all reservation holders and/or everybody. - Make the options - expensive, affordable, mid-level available for ordering. Note the word "ordering" - Still...
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    Tesla up-selling is partly to blame for some people in Ontario not getting EV rebates

    I am model 3 reservation holder and a huge Tesla/Elon fan [boy]. I reserved my spot on day 1. I care about the environment and try to do whatever little I can in my own limited capacity and sphere of influence. I received an email to configure my model 3 a while back. I couldn't configure it...