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Looking back at the day when that ill-fated tweet was made.

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Coming back here after a long time and nothing much has changed, haha.

There was this joke back in 2008. Q) What is the capital of Iceland? A) $0.02 :p

I think there is a long history to TSLA, it starts from around 2013 when the SP was in 30s and now it has shot up to 200s-300s. New longs don't understand this history and why this is such a battleground stock. The longs on this thread and very seasoned hardcore longs and they are in a war with...

Are these guys on this forum?

Macros have just started worsening.

Normally, the natural trend of most shares is up. But in case of TSLA, it seems these days, the natural trend is down, unless, there is some positive news.

Just saw this on twitter reported by Reuters: JUST IN: Tesla shares down after Hudson Bay Capital Management says it holds short position in company $TSLA

Shorts are still not covering. So I guess they are waiting for further downside.

Typically, in the stock market or anywhere else, the malicious people are a few minority. In case of TSLA, the longs seem to imply that the entire media, analyst community, big hedge funds, sovereign wealth fund and even SEC is malicious. How can so many people be malicious and only a small...

In the recent few falls, when there was bad news before open, the price always opened low and then ended high. I am betting, today, that wont happen, we will close much lower than the open.

I dont agree with the people here who think the stock price will take off after the Q3 deliveries/results. Stock price is not additive that way. If it was, then after the go private tweet and subsequent call off, the SP would have gone back to where it was after the Q2 ER. It is not like only...

So does trading halt if the stock falls 10%? I remember Facebook fell 25% on the day of its results, didnt it?

I guess, lots of weak longs who bought this week in anticipation of the great Q3 numbers, will panic today and sell.

He has made tweets like short burn of the century, short shorts etc and everyone knows that he hates shorts. He also retweeted that Hitler video, after his tweet made the stock go up. So clearly the evidence is against him. It is up to him to prove that at that moment he had absolutely no...

I guess there is a very thin line between what is a fraud and what is not, when you are the CEO of a public company and you make a revenge full tweet(s) to burn the shorts. The fact is people have lost real money because of the tweet and if the intent of the tweet was to make people lose money...

Atleast, one of the 2 things below should have happened after the go private tweet 1) TSLA should have indeed gone private. After making a big statement like that, you can't back off so soon. Many people on this thread believed him that it was certain and bought shares at 370. 2) Saudis should...

J19 150 PUT and 350 CALL options are both trading at $8 levels! This means market assigns equal probability for the stock to go to 150 or 350. Both are about $100 away from current stock price. I wonder how many will be brave enough at this point to sell those 150 PUTs.

I dont think TSLA's is as sure shot as that med student analogy. Because, I know otherwise very sensible people in the finance industry who give great advice about long term etf only investing etc but when it comes to TSLA, here is what he has to say: "Its financing situation is pretty...

I dont think TSLA's is as sure shot as that med student analogy. Because, I know otherwise very sensible people in the finance industry who give great advice about long term etf only investing etc but when it comes to TSLA, here is what he has to say: "Its financing situation is pretty...

I wish I knew :) But if I have to guess, whatever bad news had to come out has come out, I cant imagine anything worse until the most awaited Q3 deliveries and profitability. I think all the drama is over for now and TSLA can start its boring slow climb back up to the 300 level and then the ER...

Its funny, when this guy came in, it didnt push the stock price up, but when he quit, he took down the stock 6% with him. What an expensive hire for just 1 month. This morning I had posted that weak longs who got trapped yesterday will sell today. They just got the perfect panic news.

No, I am only implying that yesterdays action looked like a breakout to the upside, in the morning. So people would have got in. Then, the way the stock price end the day flat and looking at today's premarket action, will scare a few weak longs who thought they bought at the lowest price.

Yesterday, it looked like the stock had bottomed and must have trapped many people. Expect those people(weak longs) to sell today.

I guess, the bottom is formed now and all the negative news is in the stock and now is the time to buy.

Somebody on twitter is making fun of me :(

I dont think support exists at every $10 intervals. More likely that it exists at $20 intervals. So 320, 300, 280 and next 250.

Today is a bad macros day. The way EMs are selling off, anything that looks risky is getting whacked. I guess that is rubbing off on TSLA as well.

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I have this feeling that TSLA bulls have misplaced expectations on the share price and that is the cause for much of the angst. Every time the share price falls a bit, people here say, this is the lowest it can go, I am getting my dry powder, etc. I dont think markets work that way. The share...

Terms of Service Violation Nice interview, the b!tch reporter tries to put some words into his mouth. But he doesn't fall for it. He tells doesn't read NYT and that it is biased.

Excellent informative post. We need to put this as a sticky somewhere. The Shorts analysis stick around in Seeking Alpha. We need the long analysis also to stick somewhere.

But your security positions dont reflect your bearishness. You have 100 shares currently valued at $300. You are going to lose atleast $50 per share if your prediction becomes true.

I guess, it is then a matter of what strike price of CALL you must choose. Sorry I am noob when it comes to options, so I cant guide you, maybe you can ask this in the advanced options thread or maybe in an excel sheet writedown the various risk reward scenarios, for example 400 CALL has a much...

You can also sell PUTs of the same strike which is of the same premium in case of TSLA, so you get back the $71 you paid. But I guess, your margin requirements will be higher, still lower compared to holding the stock outright. When you buy LEAP only, it is kind of hedged long, you wont lose...

Thanks, you are right. I ended up selling 3 J20 50 PUTs for $3.8, so this gives me a credit of $1140. My risk tolerance levels are very low, especially after I got whipsawed and lost money trading TSLA options, this month. I am still very new and I have chosen a very volatile stock. So this is a...

Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. I had a look at CBOE website, doesnt seem like the margin is a lot, does it?

I sold 3 J20 50 PUTs for $3.8 yesterday. My risk tolerance is so low as I have already lost a bit of money trading higher strike options.

es Thanks! Yes, I have enough cash to buy 100 shares at 230, although I am hoping it doesnt get assigned and I can keep the premium.

This is what I have been trying to do for the last 2 hours. I place an order, change my mind and cancel it. Can someone convince me to pull the trigger and sell that J20 300 PUT ?

You are providing a very rational account for the bear thesis and kind of balances out the uber positivity on this board. I hope you are allowed to stay here.

How do you make a killing by buying calls? You need to sell PUTs of the same strike to atleast make some good the high premium you paid. I believe some people here, were caught on the wrong foot when the LEAPS above 420 crashed on the go private news. I guess if they had also sold equivalent...

Tomorrow is options expiry day. I think shorts will try to suppress the SP below 300.

Thanks, this really helps in making a case for buying.

Can someone tell me how is the TSLA stock valued right now? Is it I cheap expensive and on what basis? There is no EPS so that metric doesn't work. Then how do analysts come out with price targets and how do we know whether 300 is cheap, for example?

With a happy ending for everyone, including shareholders :)

What is the next positive trigger for thent SP? I read somewhere before about weekly numbers exceeding target. How are we doing on that front?

Any comments on the IVs? It looks like Jan 2020 300 PUT is currently trading $10 higher than when the stock price was at the same level, on the NYT article day. So it looks like IV has gone up?

Price action doesn't look good. It appears the SP wants to test the recent lows.