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I've seen discussions on Quora with people claiming battery replacement costs higher than the price of a new car. This is the first time I've seen evidence. This is patently insane and shows the greed of the car companies.

So, other people have seen the same problem? Are there threads about this?

I typically use autopilot in my X. A few days ago I found it was not working and all the related icons on the instrument cluster were not visible. I've given the car a reset, but no change. I've disabled all the related functions in the control menu and re-enabled them, with no change...

That's an issue for Tesla to manage. I don't recall using a Supercharger without idle time penalties in a long time. They seem to be pretty universal now.

Which holiday?

Why? How do you "abuse" Superchargers, by using them? In 2018, Tesla was hurting for cash. They did many things to make sure the cars they could build were actually sold. One of those things was the free, unlimited Supercharging. A significant number of those cars sold with free...

How could you possibly know what Tesla intended??? At that time, there were many who bought a Tesla, knowing they had no place to charge at home or work. With the limited charging rate of level 2 chargers (most at 30 or 40 amps (7.5 or 10 kW) it's not practical to use public charging other...

Sorry, this discussion is getting far too intricate to be useful.

Yes, that's exactly the point. No one is talking about taking this to court. Not because of BP. You continually read into what I'm saying, things I did not say. I've not made assertions as if they are fact. I'm pointing out likely outcomes. I've not had issues with crowding to any...

The devil is in the details. If BP were providing Tesla equipment, that clearly leaves the door open to be more tightly integrated with the Tesla network. My concern is that the BP chargers become a synonym for Tesla chargers, but not providing the free charging I currently enjoy. Some...

Here's the deal on the free Supercharging. Only so many chargers are needed. If others build more, Tesla can build less. So that's fewer chargers providing the free Supercharging. Is that more clear? I never said Tesla is "trying" to get out of free Supercharging, but don't think it is not...

So, what are you talking about "a decade late"???

I don't know why you say a "decade" late. Do you think there was a time when they had no repair teams???

I'm not sure how to respond to your post. I knew the "unlimited free" charging was a crap shoot. At any time, they could simply shut down the network, if they felt like it. That is exactly my concern. Now that the charging networks are talking about supporting Tesla cars, and Tesla is...

You are making no sense. YOU are talking about the free charging, but limiting what they have already given. They can't limit what they've already agreed to. WTF are you talking about???

I guess we are going to have to build a few hundred Superchargers in Alaska, then.

How does any of that make sense. The free charging deal has already been struck. It's on the entire network. So it should be changed now? I'd hate to do business with you. What's your point??? They no longer offer free charging. It's a non-ploy now. This is about how they are changing...

So you are saying Tesla will continue to grow their charging network by 50% a year? One of the huge advantages of the Tesla chargers is simply driving up and charging. No need for cards, or passwords. I expect this to be pretty crappy in comparison.

Nothing is free. I paid a lot of money to get that free charging. So that nulifies your comments on that.

Of course there will be a loss over time. The current level of coverage is really not so great, it just seems that way compared to the past. Coverage needs to continually ramp up. Look at the number of Superchargers and the spacing in PA and NY. If you want to take a trip through this...

This would seem to be breaking news. It's great that BP will be installing Tesla Superchargers (350 kW), but I'm worried about the financial issues, specifically payment. I bought my Tesla when unlimited free Supercharging was part of the deal. I've always wondered if/how Tesla might worm...

Thank you for your suggestions.

There are four airports I can use, and none of them offer what you are describing. I tried contacting the airport I mostly used about this, specifically asking about level 1 chargers. The reply was about the level 2 and 3 chargers they have/are installing. When I tried to explain the...

No, I've never gotten any sort of warnings about charging, other than while driving when it tells you to drive below some speed.

Now, I'm more confused. Why would I use a 5 kW level 2 charger when I can use an Urban charger (if it's available). When I fly, it's typically for a week. I don't know of any charging location that allows you to remain connected for a week. So, the charging has to be while I wait.

There are times this location has several cars waiting in line. I pulled in just as someone was pulling out, and didn't notice the parked cars waiting to charge. I think a guy was ready to go postal on me. It's the most convenient to the airport, but I try to find other places now. The...

Yeah, I knew that, but when I search on Hanover, MD another charger location that isn't built yet shows up. Thanks

Oh, why didn't I think of using 150 kW chargers??? I must be the stupidest person alive.

Is there a thread on the Arundel Mills Blvd charger? I can't find one.

If you are charging from 50% up, you won't see charging much higher than 75 kW. The charging rate is generally a triangle, starting very low at 0%, increasing to a peak at around 20%, then slowing to 100%. Even at 50% the rate is not so high. I don't recall for sure, but the lithium...

Yes, this shows just how poor the range estimates can be. I was also nearly trapped in a rural South Carolina region because of an evaporating range which had nothing to do with temperature. I had charged along the highway, with the range predicting arrival at a charger with some 20%...

Yes, know Urban chargers don't share 150 kW total between two cables. That's the problem I am talking about. Your "advantage" of knowing you will always get 75 kW minimum can be done with any supercharger capable of 150 kW minimum. In fact, I'm told that's what standard Superchargers are...

It had been a cold night but was warming up, and I wanted to go into town. The car had about 20% left and typically used 9% to reach town. Arriving at the supermarket, there was still 5% left and I only needed to drive a couple of miles to a Supercharger. When I came out of the store an hour...

While we are dissing the backstab connector, maybe we should point out that the wire twist with wire nut is not the best arrangement either. Many people who are not professional electricians make them work ok, but unless they are done just so, they can become faulty. There are little...

I've not confirmed this, but I'm told the standard SCs do the same thing now, when two cars are connected. It used to be that the first car connected would get all it would request. If a second car connected, it received some minimum amount, and as the first car charged more and slowed, the...

Idle charges apply, and at the ones I use, I see no indication that 50% utilization is factored in at all.

I thought IRA was an outlawed Irish organization???

What is a "NEVI"? These days, I don't pay any attention to the networks other than Tesla. Is NEVI some brand of network? Is there something special about them? I don't give any thought to non-Tesla networks, because they are not integrated yet. The Tesla network shows up in my car and all...

Sorry, you didn't answer the question. Here it is again...

What does a state legislature have to do with installing EV charging?

What we perceive as need, is not always the same as what Tesla or others see as need. I've always hated the low end L3 chargers. They literally have no purpose. The only time I'm ok with the 75 kW Tesla Urban chargers is when I want to charge while getting a bite. They take another 10...

From what I've read, $200,000 is the installed cost of a single Tesla Supercharger. But maybe I misunderstood. Still, there's a significant difference in the dollar figures with different owners. I can't think why anyone would put in more than 8 to 12 units per service station. There just...

You are preaching to the choir. I used to drive weekly on Rt 15/29 from Maryland to my place in Virginia near Lake Anna. They have a Supercharger at Haymarket, which is about halfway, then nothing until you reach Charlottesville. I turn off at Culpeper, a city of adequate size, but no...

Yes, exactly.

My brother lives next door to a hospital where the parking deck has a few L2 chargers. When I visit, I park overnight and charge there, moving my car in the morning.

In the real world, all charger information needs to be in the car, on the screen. Using a cell phone or computer to find charging points is somewhat less than optimal. Even better is if the car just tells you where you can charge. Isn't that how all EVs work?

I covered that in my first post here.

The backstab terminals are shunned by many. Lots of stories of bad connections. I don't like to spread such stories without substantiation, but it's a simple thing to not use. Just use the screw terminals in the way they are intended. The real issue though, is that the non-GFCI outlet is...

They don't have sidewalks in the long term parking lot I use. It is all asphalt except for where the bus stops are. They have a concrete curb under the small shelters. So, nothing to get in the way of running wires.

Ok, if you know the answer, there's no need to ask the question. Thank you for your input.