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Disregard my last post, I had it backwards. It's actually a benefit for system owners.

So in other words they are changing the grid event parameters to extract almost zero extra benefit from system owners, but the end result will be a 1/3 lower connected solutions compensation payment. Got it. 🙄

That's strange! After the self powered and time based control option I have the energy exports option as well as the advanced options. It might be worth a call to Tesla to see why you don't have this. Do you have the Tesla gateway as well (I assume you do since you have PW's)?

I just have the standard app. Didn’t talk to support or ask for anything special. What do you see when you click on settings in the tesla app?

Yea you would think for those participating in connected solutions it would be enabled during the grid services event by default.

settings --> powerwall --> scroll down. iOS, Tesla app version 4.11.0

I just posted in another similar thread, but I figured out why my power walls were only matching house load during grid events. The settings weren't allowing for battery export. Make sure energy exports is set to everything. I don't remember this setting always being there, I could be mistaken...

I finally figured out what was limiting my battery output to match the house load during grid events. The settings were wrong! Energy exports has to be set to everything. Every grid event I've been trying to run am much useful electrical load as I can, running the dishwasher, dryers (with...

I believe connected solutions is supposed to override user config if you are enrolled. (Unless you force it off grid) It should direct all solar power to the battery and pull from the grid for house load during the day until the battery is charged and then dump the battery at full power to the...

Yesterday my system was only matching house demand. I cranked up demand by charging my car, putting laundry in the dryers etc. I hope this is taken care of and the power walls just dump at full tilt otherwise the compensation will be very low and won't end of covering most of the power wall...

I saw the same thing happen. I just forced a large load on my house by rushing around to put laundry in the dryer, run the dish washer, charge the car etc. I expected the power walls to just dump at full tilt to the grid. I'm going to be very unhappy if this is the standard because it's not...

I'm interested in what you find out related to the connected solutions payments and being counted as income. I don't see how this could be considered income from a taxation perspective until the system has actually generate more revenue than it cost to install. If you determine how to...

Related to the 25kW threshold, I believe it's AC inverter size. Just make sure Tesla keeps your inverter size under that, it's fine to over panel/tile a bit. Make sure you call MA ACA to understand what block they are currently allocating in your area. Realize that by the time Tesla applies...

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I called the MA ACA and I can apply for net metering but there is a waiting list and the net metering cap for my area is currently fully allocated. Also when you apply for a net metering cap when over 10kW AC, you only get a credit for about 60% of the full retail rate for monthly overproduction...

So here is what I THINK it means but I haven't had it fully confirmed yet. What I do know, under the 10kW AC inverter size you get full net metering. You more or less get the full retail rate credit even if you overproduce in a given month. They won't refund you but it accumulates...

Any idea what the effect of not having net metering is? I’m planning on participating in connected solutions when my system is installed. Im still not sure if power consumption vs production is netted on an instantaneous basis, hourly, daily, monthly etc, monthly would be best. I’m in eastern...

A Tesla system won’t export power to the grid if its down. PTO approval or not, it’s just not going to happen with the way the system is designed and installed.

I can say the Tesla energy experience is significantly worse than the automotive side of the business. Although the automotive side has its problems, I absolutely love my model three.

Here is my timeline, it will make you feel better. I've gone through multiple project advisors, been on them often to understand what the delay is, there is never an answer. Many times I couldn't even get someone on the phone or an email response. The VAST majority of the delay is related to...

I found this document, which is a bit old but may still be accurate. It looks like power will be netted on a monthly basis and the average ISO-NE wholesale rate will be used if you are a QF less than 60kW. So maybe day to day, hour by hour production vs compsumtion variation won't matter too much.

I will be participating in connected solutions, it was the only way I could really justify buying the power walls at all, never mind 4 of them. The whole billing side, when not eligible for net metering, seems like it could be complicated and no one has been able to clearly state how it will...

I put down a deposit in October of 2020, the system is still not installed, but thats a different story. Tesla has been the delay not permitting. National Grid is currently reviewing everything for interconnection approval then we can schedule install. The system is 39 340watt panels, (2)...

I just got my info. It's shockingly lower than I expected, mostly due to Tesla dragging their feet during every part of the process. I put my deposit down at the end of October 2020 and I STILL don't have it installed yet. I only just got the SMART incentive approved less than a month ago...

Thanks for the info. Wow it’s really starting to go down. I had run some numbers this fall and I was thinking I would get locked in around .10 with the storage adder. Given they JUST submitted my paperwork a few weeks ago, I’m sure ill be less than your number. I’ll have to update my financial...

I didn't even consider that. I would have to read it over in more detail. I just really want to get it in place now that spring is here and production would be high. I also want to be able to participate in the full summer connected solutions season (national grid virtual power plant program)...

38 days?! I’m five months in and nothing even scheduled yet...: 😡

Missed that 😉

You are in Massachusetts?

Unbelievable they they were ever charging it, the state follows the same guidelines are Federal ITC. Energy storage when installed with solar qualifies.

Ahh you are on a municipal power provider. Did they have different net metering rules? What kind of TOU pricing do you have?

I was thinking the same thing, although I didn't get that response. They are going to be keeping the SE inverters in my design. I'm fine going with SE 10k inverter, I can buy the extended warranty, it's a fairly mature product, etc. I'm not sure how much software updates to the inverter will...

What utility provider do you have? What size is your system (ac and dc)? I ask since I’m in Mass and wasn’t aware of much in the way of TOU plans, well any that were even close to worth while.

This went as expected. I heard from my advisor yesterday. They wanted to move me to the Tesla inverter instead of solar edge and were in the process of revising the plans to resubmit permits etc. I told them I’d like to have the Tesla inverter but to stop since I didn't think there was an...

Right in my hometown. Already have two gen 2 HPWC. Good luck!

Too bad they didn't make a 10kW model or a combination that would add up to 10kW. In Massachusetts for example, 10kW AC capacity (inverter size) is a very desirable size. It keeps you under the net metering cap exempt threshold. You are maximizing the (almost) 100% net metering credit. If you...

Gen 1 or 2’s are 8’ or 24’ I believe. The gen 3 is 18’. Not sure what you have

Drive in reverse? :)

Thanks for all the information. I reached out to my project manager and asked that everything that isn't required to be outside be moved inside. I know items such as the main ac disconnect for solar/power wall and the meter will need to be outside. There will be plenty of room made on the other...

I'm at the point of just waiting for an install date to be scheduled. My system consists of 39 panels, SE 10kw inverter, and 4 power walls. Early on I requested everything be installed inside, initialy in the garage but that was changed to the utility room due to spacing requirements for the...

Excellent! I'm not sure when mine will be installed yet. I'm having the 20 year old roofing shingles replaced on that section of roof tomorrow in preparation. They are in great shape but I don't want to have issues 5 years down the road. Permits have been issued for the solar and PW's. I...

Let us know how you make out with the disputed sales tax. When I get a response from the DOR Rules and Reg's team, which should be an official statement I can post it here for others to reference if needed.

Another update. I let my solar project coordinator/manager know what the MA DOR said about the power walls being sales tax exempt. She prepared a MA sales tax exempt form for me to e-sign and removed all sales tax from the invoice. I'm not sure if this will be stand practice or just due to my...

Update, I heard back from Mass Department of Revenue. The power walls, when paired with a PV system are sales tax exempt in Mass. The next step will be getting Tesla to realize this and not charge me (or others) sales tax. I will likely need to get a document from the rules and regs...

Why all the north facing panels (I count 24)? At $2/watt that’s about $16,000. I would think that would really kill your ROI time. It looks like you have two south facing open roof areas on your house and maybe some room south facing on your shed. Maybe try to move some there? You may want to...

Looks great! Decent price for forged as well.

Thanks, that’s about what I figured mine would be. Hope mine gets locked in soon.

Bingo. Try again at 80-90% and a warm battery and it will be much faster.

So with the storage adder what’s the SMART compensation rate?

What SMART rate did you get? Did you do a power wall?