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A good reason to not believe Elon on this topic is that it was posted almost 4 years ago and he was tossing around the idea of "module replacements." For those unaware, a battery is made up of separate modules (3-4 of them, depending on what you buy.) Tesla has never offered any such service...

Well, you had great timing considering the price drops that went into effect tonight. Question: Did you actually see a Model X with no USS? There has been no confirmation of this yet.

Took delivery of 500XXX 2023 LR S (MSM, 19”, Black Interior, FSD) tonight. I asked the advisor helping me out and he told me the build date was December 8th, 2022. It was a late pickup and I was running out of daylight, but everything looks great so far. I did a quick check for any obvious...

They are not offering any discounts, at least yet, on S/X. They are under significant pressure to discount 3/Y because those cars are going to be, at least partially, discounted just as much on January 1.

That is the new screen.

Well, Tesla came through. A few hours after I sent the last text they presumably escalated again and restored the trade in value (+$1,100) to the still valid offer received a few days earlier. A bit annoying having to ask for updates and keep receiving reminders about my "final trade-in offer,"...

I am scheduled to accept delivery of my PF500XXX LR S this Friday, but Tesla is "shining" in dealing with non-standard situations like usual. Two weeks ago I submitted my trade in info for my Model 3 and they made an offer. This offer is valid until early January. Apparently this locks out the...

The first person to report it (the guy with the screen protectors mismatch) had a Long Range. Far more likely just Tesla switching to a new part number after they ran out of the old part number, which is why it didn’t line up perfectly with the 2023 model year.

I already put the order on hold once when they assigned me a reject-by-someone-else 2022 VIN mid-October. They are unlikely to play ball and allow me to place another hold at this point. I am waiting to see if any new info surfaces in the next couple days (unlikely) before making a decision.

No idea what kind of signature we could expect to see. I find it hard to believe no one has dropped the bumper on a 23 M3/MY yet, it is really easy to do, especially now without the USS harness.

And on that note, Tesla just assigned me a VIN. PF500xxx. Time to make some decisions on whether to accept it or cancel the order and wait.

There is far more to this story than "assumed theory" and there is no guess about it being automotive or not. The "HD Radar" itself popped up in the Tesla parts catalog for Model S/X several months ago with diagrams of it, on accident, and was removed almost immediately. It is a bumper mounted...

Yeah, I already own a Tesla and am in no particular rush to upgrade. People will always say “there is always something new around the corner.” They aren’t wrong, but that doesn’t mean you are wrong for wanting to get in on the very latest just after a change and not have a “legacy” car 1 month...

This is unfounded. There is absolutely nothing indicating Tesla is going to say anything other than "HW3 without radar is good enough to accomplish what we promised for FSD. Of course, HW4 will be better, but it is not needed." This is actually more in line with the tone Elon and his team were...

There are four documents pending release, the “Internal Photos,” “External Photos,” “Test Setup Photos” and “User Manual.” Likely just waiting for someone at the FCC to hit the approve for release button on their end.

Tesla continues to tighten up my delivery timeframe, though I am not super enthusiastic about the dates of the most recent change. 😅 Ordered Early April 2022. S LR. White, Black, 19”, FSD. Estimated delivery February 2023. Tesla assigned 2022 VIN mid-October, placed order on hold as waiting for...

I presume this is just a lighting/camera issue that the repeater looks chrome, right? As the repeaters on the refresh cars are supposed to be fully black. I know I have seen pictures of black under bright lights that looked chrome due to camera issues.

yeah, here are pictures of the differences on the 3 I found on Reddit. You can see the rings on the plastic piece around the lens are clearly new. Unfortunately it looks like Tesla is using a different repeater on the S, which may not be new at all. The 2023 S picture I can’t see any rings, but...

Ordered Early April 2022. S LR. White, Black, 19”, FSD. Estimated delivery February 2023. Tesla assigned 2022 VIN mid-October, placed order on hold as waiting for 2023 VIN. Tesla removed hold first week of November, estimated delivery Dec 3-31. One week ago estimated delivery changed to Dec...

Tesla is really fine tuning my delivery window a month away. Yesterday it was Dec 22-31, now it is Dec 21-31. :rolleyes: Hopefully that means they are pretty confident with production rates now if it they are 'reaffirming' the window.

It is unclear if USS have been removed from Model S/X yet. The announcement from Tesla said that the removal on S/X would be happening as follows: We will continue this rollout with Model 3 and Model Y, globally, over the next few months, followed by Model S and Model X in 2023. It sounds like...

Yes, the letters I O and Q are not used in VINs to avoid confusion between the numbers 1 and 0 when reading them.

Got an update today as well. Houston. S LR. White, FSD, 19”. Previous delivery window was Dec 3 to Dec 31. They shrunk my delivery window down to Dec 22 to Dec 31. That’s a fun little window.

Tesla goes through cycles of producing cars for the entire NA market and producing cars that will be shipped overseas. They usually spend the last month primarily building NA cars because they can’t build a car, ship it and get it delivered before the end of quarter (it’s a silly stock market...

It appears they are currently producing EU cars (or at least, those are the folks currently getting VINs). It wouldn’t surprise me if S/X stay on the “end of quarter rush for US” timeframe. They need to fill ships, and if the only cars being put on ships are S/X they need to produce enough of...

The EU thread is posting about quite a few late November through early December delivery 2023 Model S VINs being assigned. Tesla is clearly getting the overseas cars on their way before they focus on deliveries to US customers for the end of quarter rush. Chances are high that as long as you...

It wouldn’t surprise me if people are playing hot potato with cars manufactured a few weeks ago as many people don’t want to be the one stuck with a 2022 VIN. I would have been curious to know the manufacture date if Tesla could have told you, but too late for that. Model S/X production has...

He only has an EDD. Unfortunately the only PF (2023 VIN) assignments we have seen for S is one going to EU for delivery before end of year, unclear if it has even been manufactured yet. That said, it has been extremely quiet on VIN assignments recently and flyovers of Fremont are showing very...

Any idea what their normal S/X activity looks like? I’ve seen his last few videos as well where it was lacking. Curious if this means they are having issues putting out S/X cars and swapping in whatever tooling updates for 2023 models. Seems like no new VINs lately.

Just a minor update. Order was placed in April 2022 with estimated delivery February 2023. I had my order placed on hold when they assigned a 2022 VIN mid-October, and was given until November 15th to remove the hold. I looked at the app today, and it seems Tesla unilaterally removed the hold on...

Is this something you have encountered with one service center in particular? I have now purchased parts directly from Tesla SCs (all labeled for OTC sale in the parts catalog) with no issues at all from 3 difference service centers. They absolutely need a better interface for ordering parts...

In the last two weeks it seems Tesla has been producing EU variants as they need to get them on their way on boats for delivery before the end of the year. At least one of those expecting an EU Model S is a 2023, so presumably when NA cars begin production again shortly I imagine you will be...

The raw files off your TeslaCam directory would be best if you can, as that removes any distortion from your ambient lighting/phone. You can easily just drop them onto YouTube once you copy them to a PC. Just a one minute clip driving down the road from the 4 views would be great...

If you do plan to go ahead with the delivery it would be interesting to know if your sales advisor can tell you the 'birthdate' (manufacturing date) of the car. Yes, it wouldn't make much sense to do this if any tooling changes were required for the 2023 models (TBD) like they were for 3/Y. To...

You are the first person to report one if so. Any config details? If you login to Tesla.com does it show 2023 on the dashboard? They tried to assign me a VIN a couple weeks ago, it was a 2022 NF4940xx. I put my order on hold. 500 cars later and they were on 2023s apparently. ;)

The internal camera update being talked about is just the newer internal camera that was introduced with the refresh 2021 S/X that supports infrared (IR). I believe it wasn’t until the 2022 model that Tesla put them in 3/Y.

Obviously not OEM, but you can easily get the same look by having it wrapped. It’s not going to be authentic carbon fiber unless you splurge, but I think it is a good middleground. Here is one example: 2021+ | Model S & X Full Interior Vinyl Wrap Protection Kit - Goodbye Wood Could very well...

No doubt, the Tesla radar is going to be on the lower end of the “HD” automotive radars. That said, I don't think Tesla is planning on using it in the same manner that other OEMs would. I feel like they will plan to use it to spot-check vision and increasing confidence levels of...

I do not pretend to know the intricacies of radar signal interpretation and filtering, but Continental's ARS430 seems to offer scans of near range objects in a very wide area in front of the car. Guesses about the near range FOV and minimum measuring distance of the Tesla HD radar are simply...

Note this is all speculation on my part, no hard evidence of this yet: I have a theory that I am toying with about the very large blind spot in front of the bumper and a lot of recent happenings with the removal of USS. The complete silence about the USS removal topic when Elon has been prodded...

Tesla seems to do two things: They either produce cars in certain configurations then match them up to buyers after the fact, in which case it originally had FSD but they matched it to you and removed it. That, or the person it was originally supposed to go to put their order on hold and the...

Thanks, though I have a feeling both of us may end up with it earlier. Tesla is sure to get a lot of people putting their deliveries on hold when they see they aren't getting a 2023 model in November. Before they assigned me the VIN yesterday I was showing Dec 1 - Jan 26, then it changed to Oct...

Looks like I have a month before I hit it on the last day

Tesla is attempting to assign me a 2022 Model S LR for delivery in the next 2 weeks. I have no plans to accept the assignment, and have requested they send me back into the line as the original estimated delivery was February 2023. Delivery 4 months earlier than expected, right before the model...

Likely a bit or both, we are likely to start seeing 2023 model years within the next month. For the last few years they have been making larger updates around the model year switchovers, so makes sense they may be doing some retooling.

We both need to be there to sign for the car.

Question for anyone keeping up with the timelines. Texas order btw, which gives a bit more flexibility to me because I need to pay before they ship. I ordered MS LR in April. White paint, black interior, 19” wheels, with FSD. I actually ordered because the expected delivery was February 2023. It...

The old supercharger is now no longer displayed in car navigation or on the app. If it is still powered on it likely won’t be for long.

The supercharger is now half online (4 stalls of 8 are not lit up) and showing up on the map in the car! I tried it out and it works. Car screenshot below is only showing 2 of 8 because someone else was there already charging when I plugged in.

I saw the guy he was talking about, yes- he was driving a Tesla Model X, parked next to the enclosure with his rear liftgate up and a bunch of tools laying around. He had the side of the enclosure open, saw me driving by and waved at me, I didn't talk to him however. Edit to add: I didn't have...