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We were at 100 for about a week with about 300 miles when we got into the beta program.

Hey @ContrarianDC How many days and miles were you at score 99 when you got in?

Hey @madlurker - how any miles had you racked up at score 100 when you got in?

To wrap up this topic, just wanted to report back that I got the car a couple days ago. Woo Hoo! The conclusions based on my experience are: * After the initial slip from mid-September to mid-October, my estimated delivery date (ignoring the wild spikes) was actually pretty stable and not far...

I'm in the IT / Software industry, and I was not at all comfortable entering my bank credentials for payment. Instead Tesla said I could use a cashier's check at delivery. I dropped the check off at my local Tesla shop early for good measure since it's next to my bank. This felt *much* safer...

Decided to extrapolate my slipping EDD. Results are not encouraging. See extrapolated blue EDD on the graph below. It looks like there is a pretty constant "slow walk" slip. If that's real, my delivery date is probably around early January, even though the earliest EDD (reported just last week)...

The key thing I'm learning here is that EDD is very chaotic - bouncing all over the place, both in and out. If waiting for other changes is attractive to you, then contacting Tesla might be a good idea. But bear in mind Tesla does not follow the conventional "model year" approach that other...

My EDD hopped way out for a few days then came back essentially to where it was. Of course YMMV. Also if the price has gone up you’ll be on the hook for the difference as well as any price difference in options.

On the issue of when we can / should show insurance, the "manage" page section on insurance says "Your Tesla VIN must be listed on your policy in all but these states" and then in the pop up list of states (which doesn't include Colorado where I live) it says "Proof of insurance is required to...

Ok, as predicted, my delivery date did come back in, but only partly. Specifically it's back to what it was before plus 2 additional weeks. What's very concerning now is that the estimated remaining time to delivery is growing, not shrinking. My EDD is in a worse than day for day slip. At this...

Thanks all for the calming inputs! Good advice, indeed. @Chemios - Good question about my order date. It's a tiny bit complicated. I ordered 7/16 and then decided to make a change on 8/4. (Dammit! Should've stuck with my gut and ordered red in the first place!) After a little bouncing around...

My estimated delivery date had been steadily mid-October to first week of November for a while. Now, today, it's estimated as "January". (Please pardon me a moment while I step away to vent my feelings at something less expensive than my computer ....) Ok, back now. Is anyone else seeing a...

Sorry to hear - that sucks. Did sentry mode capture the incident? If so, your insurance company might pursue damages against them to pay for your repairs.

I got a chance to test drive a 2017 S today. Ride quality in the S was noticeably better than the Y, but amenities (console, phone charging, etc.) and especially rear seat room are better on a new Y.

<Sigh> I was worried something like that might be the case. So if I want my Y to look like the Mazda above, it would mean a complete new (very expensive) paint job. Yes?

To my completely untrained eye, the finish on cars like the picture above seems more than just very flat and shiny. In addition to the mirror like surface, the color changes gradually with the curved surface of the car. Is that all just from resolving orange peel and applying polish / sealant...

Thanks @blc1017 (beautiful S, BTW) and @DSoloie. Those products look very helpful. Will they resolve orange peel or does that need something more aggressive like "cut and buff", whatever that is...?

I have a red Y coming to replace my 3 I sold, and I'm interested in making the Y's paint look *awesome*. My 3's factory paint looked very good but even an amateur like me could see some orange peel and the finish had no "depth"(?). I've started noticing that it's possible for cars to look like...

Yeah, certainly the majority are priced stupid-high. I found a couple of Ys priced more reasonably on cargurus.com findmyelectric.com. Other sites I also checked were edmunds.com and autotrader.com.

Does anyone have a different opinion - preferences for an S in the 2017 / '18 range over a new Y?

Awesome input - thanks again!!

Thanks glide. What were the features of the Y you preferred over the '15 S? When was the S refresh done?

I sold my 3 to buy a new Y but now I'm considering a used (2017 or '18) S100D. Can anyone summarize, or point me to where I can get a comparison of a 17/18 S100D and a new Y?

... and then my estimated delivery date was gone again, and now back to October ... (!) At least October is better than no estimated date at all.

Excellent! Thanks!

I’ve found a couple of used Ys that look potentially workable. I’d like to determine which recent hardware improvements these cars include or don’t. For example the new console style and double pane windows. Anyone know where I can find a list of all hardware upgrades done to the model Y so I...

Good thought! Thanks.

Hmmm... yeah, that's looking correct. Most used Y's are just a bit more expensive than new. Managed to find one that looks possibly less expensive; need a few more details on it to be sure...

Hah! Elon was watching.:-) now my date is sep 9-30.

I ordered my Y in early July. Delivery was Sep 18 - 30. Then on 7/22 it went to October. Now the delivery date completely gone - no estimate at all. (Or maybe it moved somewhere??) Now instead it says “We will reach out to you to schedule your delivery date. Delivery time frame is based on...

I’m selling my 3 to buy a Y, and considering buying used, partly to save (a little) $ and partly to skip the wait for new. Where can I get info on how to evaluate hardware on used Ys, especially anything relevant to FSD? Also, what’s the best way to assess the usable battery range?

This has happened to us several times. It is much worse than scary it is very dangerous. Someone is going to get rear ended with this bug if they haven’t already. Very ironic that there is such a dangerous bug from a company that counts safety as their top priority.

These videos have enormous value for training and testing their AI algorithms. Gives Tesla a huge competitive advantage. I’m fine with them having them; you can opt out if you want.

I returned to a badly dented door and found that the thumb drive had filled the day before so Sentry mode had stopped recording. I contacted Tesla via customer support chat (the only way I could get someone to help) and was told in no uncertain terms customers cannot get copies of the uploaded...

Thanks! That planner really does look better, and good option to top up at the RV park. What is realistic cold weather (0-5 degrees) range folks have gotten?

I need to drive my long range AWD 3 from Loveland CO to Creede CO and back, with a stop at the Poncha Springs supercharger. The middle segment round trip from the supercharger to Creede and back will be 114 miles each way - 228, plus a few miles driven in Creede with a mountain pass on the way...

I've driven > 400 miles now, and still no AP. Kinda thinkin' it's never going to calibrate. And when I try calling support, I'm transferred to the nearest (Littleton CO) service center voicemail, which is full, with no option to leave a message. So, how do I get someone to help with the feature...

... and now I'm screwed, too. Thanks Rod for the tip to dial 0 after the full voicemail box. They changed my VIN after giving me the signed MVPA, and won't have the car for me at the scheduled appointment tomorrow. The agent I got on the phone literally said "I don't know why no one contacted...

I've got a scheduled delivery for tomorrow (Saturday) morning at Littleton, and a signed MVPA. I'd love to make sure the car is actually there before travelling half way across the state (I'm in north CO) but my delivery assistant stopped responding days ago, and calling the Littleton "delivery"...

@umair239 - just a thought - suggest you do some math on the value to you of supercharging. For me, it has (almost) zero value because I expect (almost) never to use it. Even if I did use it frequently, I don't think it would add up to much actual value. Something like a "3K discount on a brand...

I ordered mid-July. Got notified 9/6 delivery scheduled "September 30 through Sunday, October 7". Notified 9/14 delivery scheduled 9/29. VIN showed up around 9/21. Asked my delivery specialist yesterday to confirm all is set (AFAIK it is) but no response. ~24 hours out, and I'm hopeful but not...

Thanks everyone for the really helpful inputs. The best article I found on this is here - great write up and a super feature comparison table. I've decided I'm going to try to buy the S, but I doubt they'll take what I'll be able to offer, so I'll (very happily!) buy the 3.

Thanks everyone! Really awesome and helpful inputs! Key factors are coming down to +S: storage versatility and ride quality, +3: range and (maybe??) AP sensors. The key open question is auto pilot hardware. This S VIN has "F" in digit 10, which, based on this site, I think means the S was...

Thanks @Bebop. How do I determine the manufacture month, or whether it has AP 2? Thanks @Lasttoy. Unfortunately, support said they can't give details from a vin unless the car's in my name.

Is it possible to get the S manufacture month, maybe from the vin? i have the S vin.

I started out looking for a used S I could afford, that is new enough (~2016+?) to have hardware compatible with auto pilot, and failed. So, I ordered a long range AWD Autopilot 3, and it's scheduled for delivery *this Saturday*. (Yay!) Then today someone sent me info about a 2016 S 75D AWD that...