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  1. Steve m

    2021 Shipping Movements

    I saw the Grand Uranus just arriving in Tacoma could it next be taking Teslas to the Asia Pacific?
  2. Steve m

    2021 Shipping Movements

    Better photo with the other camera.
  3. Steve m

    2021 Shipping Movements

    Glovis Sirius leaving Tacoma WA.
  4. Steve m

    2021 Shipping Movements

    Spica Leader Drammen
  5. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And if you are speculating and injecting conspiracy theories then don't be surprised when I laugh at you.
  6. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Is this the investors thread or the speculators thread? I ask this because if you are flipping options you ain't investing you are speculating.
  7. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Lets consider these... How many shares were involved? What long term effect will these have?
  8. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I just refuse to be paranoid you may do what you wish. My strong suspicion is that most naked shorts are covered quickly and are a result of day trading. The MM sell shares to match demand and buy shares to match demand. If you have factual evidence proving otherwise then I am interested if...
  9. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What are the odds that this is the first time your broker has had to deal with a US company doing a stock split. Go talk to your broker if you are worried. Pointless to spread these worries around.
  10. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Any shares sold next week will include transfer of the other 4 shares and will be sold as if they were 1 share.
  11. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There are more conspiracy theories here than on facebook... ;) At least Tesla cars are arriving and being registered in Norway and the Netherlands
  12. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It ain't that complicated. The short is on the hook but only when closing the position. There is no free lunch for anyone. The contracts just get multiplied by five. How Do Stock Splits Affect Short Sellers? Stock splits do not affect short sellers in a material way. There are some changes...
  13. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The short only has to provide the 4 new shares when she closses her short position. The lender just has their IOU increased to 5 shares from the 1 share. If 5 post split shares have the sane price as the 1 pre split share there is no money lost or gained by anyone.
  14. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I am going to start a competitor to Tesla that uses bricks for its power. With us you won't hit a brick wall. You will be driving one. Green building: Chemists show regular bricks can be transformed into energy storage devices - CNN
  15. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Valuation? By begining of 2022 Tesla will be making at least 2 million cars a year at $50k per car and a 15% margin. That is 15 billion in profit and at a 50x P/E for a hyper growth company it will be worth 750 billion dollars or roughly 3x todays market cap. Not including FSD or power or...
  16. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That is what I covered when I stated that the sales contracts include the additional shares. Otherwise on Aug 24th the price would have to drop to 1/5th. I agree this will be largely invisible to the public and will be handled behind the scene by the brokers and trading systems.
  17. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Here is the Tesla press release tsla-ex991_6.htm What happens between Aug 21 and Aug 28 is going to be interesting. Those who hold stock at close of Aug 21 will be given a dividend of 4 shares for every share they hold but that doesn't happen until Aug 28th. So on Monday Aug 24th does the...
  18. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    An explanation between stock splits and stock dividends Stock Dividend vs Stock Split | Top 6 Best Differences (with Infographics)
  19. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No I am not implying that at all. Read the post i was responding too. You are asking for free money. As if you could sell a share and then get 80% of the value back leaving the buyer with only 20% of what they bought. Who is going to agree to that as your mark?
  20. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Read the message I was responding to
  21. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Unless they are naked shorts and most should not be then if person A lent out 1 share to person B and B sold to C then after the split. C will have 5 shares. B will owe A 5 shares. A has zero shares just an IOU from B for 5 shares because they lent them out
  22. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Who is going to buy that 1 share for $1500 knowing that it is going to drop in value to $300 in a few days?
  23. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I was thinking that Musk's lawyers will subpoena Montana and drag him through the mud... As one lawyer friend who specialized in depositions described himself.... I am a professional a$$hole
  24. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yea like my brother in law. I told him to put a can in it.
  25. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I down loaded it July 22nd 2020 the day of the conference call.
  26. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Didn't I suggest earlier that if it gets cheaper to ride robo taxis then private cars that people will own fewer cars and parking lots will be emptier leaving room for robo taxis to wait? I am pretty sure I all ready made this claim.
  27. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    [would If you read Mudede's posts about parking last year—one that discussed the fact that Seattle drivers spend 58 hours per year looking for parking, and another along the same lines titled, A Quarter of Seattle Drivers Are Searching for Parking...
  28. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    To make the donations list I am pretty sure your credit card has accepted the charge. To be spoofing Elon or anyone for ten grand would be a pretty expensive joke.
  29. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If as expected the cost of a ride drops to a dollar per mile or less then urban and even suburbanites will own fewer cars. If the 2nd car is used for shopping, dr appointments, taking children to school etc. And instead of paying a monthly car payment and insurance payment they would spend...
  30. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Uber stated that there are over 750,000 Uber drivers in the US in 2017. Uber has more work to do winning over drivers
  31. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I wouldn't refer to these as futures.
  32. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I have a sofa I want rid of... How many NKLAs does that take?
  33. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    so if you need hot oil to break a seige then a Tesla is the wrong car?
  34. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    uhm no. Earth is still earth and the idea of not having to go back to the family farm is still the same idea.
  35. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As I recall from the book "Soul of a New Machine" the author talks about upon going public that the founders should sell enough stock such that if Data General fails they would not have to go back to work at the family gas station. Clearly Robyn sold over 40 million dollars in stock. That...
  36. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Link to the post that got you sent to a corner for a week?
  37. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Who or what is this Mont that every one wants free?
  38. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Inside the S&P 500: An Active Committee | S&P Dow Jones Indices Some insight into the S&P 500 selection committee.
  39. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I once received an email that was a list of things lawyers had said in court. The one I remember is where the lawyer asked the witness "Just how close were those cars that were in that accident?"
  40. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yea but if you press it I am going to use the sound system to simulate the engine stalling.
  41. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I see no mention of raising cash one way or the other. I do see a constraint being about manufacturing enough battery cells at an affordable price and a plea for nickel miners to not waite for prices to go back to historical highs to produce more nickel.
  42. Steve m

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As Abraham Lincoln once stated "don't believe everything you read on TMC" and you know this how? It isn't reflected in the price of nickel.