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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    I think there are a LOT more very wealthy potential Tesla buyers who have heard of the Model S in the last few months than had heard of it prior. The Motor Trend COY award alone probably doubled the number. How many of your friends and acquaintances had heard of Tesla a year ago vs. now? For...
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    Well of course "value" just means what someone is willing to pay for it. But I'm also surprised the value wasn't closer to $170K. But the fact is that I had it posted for several weeks before finding a buyer at 140K and another (non Perf) Signature was on Ebay and to the best of my knowledge...
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    I truly don't understand this concern. Is the thought that once you buy a Tesla you must keep it forever? How long must you keep it? As an individual buying a car, you think there could possibly be some restriction on how long I must keep it before I can sell it or a restriction on how much I...
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    Thanks all! And nope, my production model is Brown with Tan interior. I wonder if I'm the only person who's had to endure this wait twice? Talk about first world problems!
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    Just a final update on this... I sold the car for $140,000. I thought about whether or not to post that piece of news but in the end decided to do so because I think it's important. Everybody needs to understand that the market has spoken and at $100,000, this car is currently underpriced...
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    After several missed delivery estimates, looks like I will finally be taking possession of the car this weekend. I plan to take and post pictures and start a more focused sales effort once I finally have it safely in my garage! I've had many offers on it but I think many people don't realize...
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    I feel confident that any potential buyer will understand the implication of "nearly zero miles". The car hasn't been driven beyond the factory. If they feel mislead because Tesla put 100 miles on it... well let's just say I doubt they will. Thanks for the heads up though.
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    The car is due to be delivered to the Los Angeles service center-- hopefully by the end of this week.
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    A quick update... the car is due to arrive sometime next week. I've had several offers on it (from around the world) but as of today it remains available.
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    Looking for a Model S Signature Performance

    Red Model S Signature Performance Available!! :wink:
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    I'm asking for approximately 15% over what I paid. As mentioned at the start of the thread, discussions of the morality of my decision to sell my car (or the asking price) should be in the off topic area as per the mods decision.
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    Had some interest and one offer but I think it's really a matter of venue (for the ad). Anyone willing to buy this car and skip the year wait likely knows all about it. Just don't know where people sell high end cars. Autotrader doesn't even have a Tesla option!
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    Of that I'm sure you're right. However, with 13,000 reservations it seems interest is already pretty high! My guess is that it's just a matter of exposure to potential buyers and I'm not sure the best way to give it that.
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    Model S Signature Performance (Red) For Sale

    When I mentioned my intent to sell this car a couple of months ago it sparked quite a debate which eventually moved to "off topic". Hopefully any debate can remain there. But many on both sides seemed curious of the outcome so here's an update. I made no attempt to sell the car beyond the...
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    Model S #166 - on eBay - in Portland, Maine

    Laws on collecting tax on car sales vary greatly by state. California always collects tax so if the original buyer was in CA and he sold it to a secondary buyer also in CA, then yes, there would be tax charged for each of the sales. If the CA buyer sold it to someone in AZ, AZ would NOT...
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    Model S #166 - on eBay - in Portland, Maine

    We're not going to go through this whole thing again are we? Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell
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    Red Model S Signature Performance Available!

    Just for accuracy sake... despite what has been said here by many, the Signature Performance out the door is actually almost $120K. So the mark up is 25%, not 50% as many have stated. Not saying that isn't a lot, just saying it's half as much as 50%. And I wouldn't want to sell it for any less.
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    Red Model S Signature Performance Available!

    Car is still available and due to be delivered around September 1.
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    Need Tesla Model S

    Sorry, should have started that post with "Wrong." as I've seen is your preferred form of correcting people. There is a difference between black markets and grey markets, hence the different word. grey market n 1. (Business / Commerce) a system involving the secret but not illegal sale...
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    Need Tesla Model S

    It's a grey market not a black market. Nothing illegal or immoral about it.
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    Thanks for the kind words; I appreciate it! I do realize that most people here are rational and that all of them are excited about Tesla. Hopefully the fact that the others have fallen silent is a sign that reason (and a little peer pressure) finally won out over emotion. By the way, in the...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    Tommy, it's not necessary or appropriate for you to state what I'm thinking as a fact instead of your guess. You stated that there were only three posters who have stated negative reactions out of the 6,000 in the community. That's the kind of statistic that makes people distrust statistics...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    Because I wasn't interested in posting my permanent personal email address on an internet web forum. It's an invitation for a deluge of junk mail. I didn't even consider the vitriol that this thread elicited in making my decision but glad I chose to maintain my privacy. I don't feel that I...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    Put yourself in the position of a person serious about buying the car. Don't you think these points go without saying? Also, although my post that set all of this off is now a different thread, it's worth readying the original post before objecting to it. Please note that I offered that the...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    EXACTLY. And that's why Elon would be happy to have it happen as well. I have tried to address some of the general concerns here while trying to ignore some of the over the top immature attacks. I will point out that while I have certainly not violated the terms of this site, calling me a...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    Yes, but that was why I asked who would buy a Sig that was delivered next year. I believe nobody would. A signature's value is almost completely that it comes first and I got that by reserving nearly three years ago. The only other real reason is re-sale value and we don't want to even go...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    Correct. Best case will be $150,000 or more and "worst" case it will be a shiny new Signature Performance Model S. I understand that my choice to sell my car has caused an emotional reaction in some people. Please, for those of you who want to rip me anymore, at least answer to the house...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    After all that I realize I managed to post the wrong address in post #1! Easier to sell a car when people can reach you :wink: It's correct now!
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    So am I. Get it? Efusco, enough with the name calling. I'm happy to have others read our posts and decide their merrits. But I'll point out that I didn't ask for your approval let alone a pat on the back.. I posted a for sale post in a for sale section and you attacked me personally (yes...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    As do I. I'm baffled by those that seem to feel Tesla is a non-profit and I'm Mr. Monopoly. So do you feel your home builder has a right to make a fat profit but if you re-sell your home at a profit, you're greedy? What in the world do you see as the difference? As for feeling any guilt over...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    The "limited" nature of the Signature series is relatively bogus, I'd hope we can all agree. They are making as many cars as they can sell (oh the sheer greed of it!). The Signature Series buys you nothing more than a jump in the line, a choice of red and a word on the back and for that you...
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    "next door" not "next store"! That's one I've never been able to wash out of my brain!
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    Buying a Tesla with the intent to sell

    I don't plan to respond directly to much of what has been said here as I'm certainly not interested in arguing with each of you. But I will say that if you're truly offended by the price-- pause and ask yourself "why?" Are you offended by Tesla making a profit selling it for $100K? Are you...
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    Red Model S Signature Performance Available!

    Thanks for the good wishes people. To be clear, I wouldn't dream of selling mine either if I didn't have a second one available to me a couple of months later. As for selling it earlier, I agree but in fact I think it's more likely to find a market closer to the time it's available. If...
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    Red Model S Signature Performance Available!

    Again, I have two reservations. The first I made nearly three years ago. I'm a die hard Tesla fan and will be purchasing a $100,000 Tesla for myself. I don't have enough money to feel at all comfortable paying $100K for a car and hope to justify my my purchase (to myself) by making a margin...
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    Red Model S Signature Performance Available!

    As a dual reservation holder, I am interested in entering into a contract to sell you my Model S Signature Performance. It's already been configured in Signature Red with every option other than rear facing seats. There MAY be an opportunity to reconfigure if you contact me soon. This will...