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I used EAP all the time in 2019. It took me several weeks to get used to it. Then I got FSD to upgrade the hardware, and then the FSD Beta that I really wanted. I use it all the time. It took some time to get used to it. But now I use it over 90% the time, I've learned how. Of course I'd get it...

Use your scroll wheel to keep adjusting for practical target speeds. Think of it as your (smart) accelerator/decelerator, replacing use of pedals. That goes a long way in smoothing out the ride. The follow distance can use touch-up in different circumstances. But there are situations where the...

Do you have the "exit fast lane" option, or whatever it's called, on? It's supposed to cede the fast lane except for passing, in accordance with European practice. It causes something like the frequent lane changes you describe, and it's impractical. Much easier to keep it off, and make your own...

The only thing I can agree on re: Service, is that they don't always have loaners, so they give you a $100/day Uber credit. Both my Uber rides this time were in Tesla Model 3s. Service was great. They replaced the faulty inside camera overnight, on a weekend. The loaners, should you be so...

I have and use FSD Beta all the time. My cabin camera has never worked, it says so every morning. Out of the blue last week the whole autopilot affair went nuts. It started alerting to "pay attention to the road". Nothing would satisfy it. I couldn't use Autopilot at all. Putting the dog in the...

The latest pricing on automation will be IMHO right on, as soon as the full "FSD Beta" features become widely available, i.e. on demand. As an engineer I can understand why FSD Beta was released initially the way it was, i.e. only to people who are demonstrably willing and able to conform to...

Allow me to tell you about a 12 mile pharmacy run from the Oakland hills to Kaiser hospital in San Leandro last night. I started on the narrow twisted hilly streets where I live, down onto freeway 13 West, then merging onto freeway 580 West. After about 8 miles I exited to traverse residential...

Speaking of "not truthful" I'm really sick of the FSD bashing by people who claim to know something but actually have no experience with it. What motive could someone have to do that?

Anybody know how to clear a "strike'? I'm currently in the Beta, but don't deserve that strike on my record. My in-cabin camera malfunctioned and caused an avalanche of false alerts. In fact I couldn't engage Autopilot at all without it seeming like I was ignoring Blue Nag warnings. Tesla...

In 2019 I went through 2 months of white knuckle learning the ropes with EAP on freeways. It does REQUIRE a brain retrain. It's a very different way of driving, kind of like your central nervous system supervising your autonomous nervous system doing the low level work. Or riding a horse. At...

I have the FSD Beta and I'm in the "can't imagine not having it" camp. Two things: 1) it's a different (supervisory) way to drive. Nothing wrong with driving in manual, but if you want to use the automation you have to decide to either learn and go with it or stick to your old ways. That...

drunk driver mode? meh. You got a good car there with EAP. Gotta learn how it works, and it takes a lot of practice getting adapted to it. There's a checkbox in the preferences that enables lane changes without "confirmation". If you ALSO get a "blue nag" to make you pay attention, then you have...

My experience is somewhere between 1 and 2 because I have the FSD beta and it works to my satisfaction. After I got my car with EAP, I started realizing how difficult the full "FSD" objective is. Everyone underestimated the complexity, and nobody has been able to get there yet. There's no...

It'S a tricky software issue, be it from a speed limit sign or erroneous map data, and it may take a good while for the developers to completely fix. Not worth getting stressed. I believe it's behind a LOT of so-called "phantom braking". Like for other possible flaws, it confirms Tesla's stated...

If you know about a problem like this, then correct for it. Either use the accelerator to override, or use the scroll wheel to set a speed a little above, that tends to let it ignore such speed limit chatter. You bought the %$#@ thing, so figure out how to get around silly problems like this so...

I dunno, I'm just using the FSD Beta all the time - freeways and streets - and it works great, certainly well enough on the whole. I set my speed offset to -5 MPH and adjust target max speed with the roller all the time, and I use the accelerator whenever I want to. If the car reads a billboard...

BTW where does it show what version of Beta FSD we're on? For most people, good luck finding it, that further confuses things. Why not on the App? Or the web page?

Looking at some of these spiffed up Teslas, and remembering the rash of rear triangle window break-ins, I wonder how these cars survive. On our Honda Accord we just lost the SECOND catalytic converter in 3 months. Neatly sawed off. In a residential district, one within a gated parking area. On...

I think I'm lucky. I have 2021.44.30.21 with FSD Beta 10.10.something, safety score long gone, my in-cabin camera doesn't work, it drives great and I'm happy as a clam. BTW, @blissdancer, there are options to tweak, like tendency to change lanes. I happen to have everything max'ed. Any...

There are changes I can't explain. Like yesterday I got no blue nags. None. I have a 4 oz counterweight on the right steering wheel spoke, just enough to make anti-nag torque lighter, but yesterday all throughout an 11 mile drive on freeways and on city streets with pedestrians, sharp turns and...

My car had EAP, then "FSD" for the new computer, then FSD Beta. And overall it drives great. I don't know why it's (apparently) different from many others, but mine is like the Youtube clips where you get maybe one override per drive. Maybe it's something in how my options are set, but please...

I forget where it is, but people HAVE edited some maps. It was discovered in connection with incorrect parking lot maps. I have a daily spot where Nicki ignores an advisory 30 MPH sign and tries to barrel down a narrow merge "tunnel" at 65 MPH (from highway 24 Eastbound to highway 13...

I have the full automation package including the beta FSD. I had Radar but I guess it's no longer being used. There have been a few slow-downs (very seldom with brakes). But they are always "with a good reason", namely speed limit signs. Driving along at 70 MPH you pass a 55 MPH sign and the car...

Typical "NOA & FSD" drive to Kaiser hospital, then out to dinner. First on freeways, then complex route through central San Leandro, including some narrow streets, giving proper clearance to pedestrians and flawless slowing for speed bumps. One override that I forced where the car was going to...

It's explicitly beta. Meaning you need to learn how and when to disengage it proactively. Not wait for something to go seriously wrong. I use it on freeways, highways and the wider streets now all the time. I do regulate the target speed with the scroll wheel, that's the best control...

YAWN. Waymo's not helping me in my daily drives. NOA w/ FSD is.

Well, maybe it's a specialty item. I hear two voices. One group complains that it's not close enough to "full autonomy". Another group seldom takes part in these discussions, but mostly uses it and simply works around the flaws. I suspect this is the majority. I'm in the latter demographic and...

@adewinne Just wondering, have you noticed all the frequent "blue nag" tinting at the top of your screen? That's supposed to be occasionally warning you about not holding the wheel or not paying attention, and must be responded to. How are you getting all those? I like what Musk is doing, I'm...

Wow, sorry to hear about the frustration. I was probably just lucky to start requesting early. I'd be livid too if I hadn't gotten in. But maybe they have limitations e.g. as to how many FSD-beta cars they can closely monitor. Let's hope they get this improved soon.

Although the two button salute for the screen computer reboots it, I haven't been able to do a system reboot for months. I used to do the power off from the menu, with phone in Airplane mode, sit motionless in the car and wait 10 minutes. I'd see the mirrors fold, hear the contactors drop...

@bjrosan I have no idea why, but our experiences are totally different. Maybe as simple AS KEEPING YOUR CAMERAS REALLY CLEAN. Who knows. I use FSD 10.8.1 all the time and I swear on my leftovers that it does none of what you describe. Granted, it's taken its time at some intersections in the...

No need to overthink this. You'll love it.

Please don't misunderstand my "living in the past" remark. I'm not criticizing these drivers. They have opportunities to wing out that I don't have, living where I do. It's the ever-encroaching "modern packing" that i'm unhappy about, the way everything is turning to franchised asphalt and...

People who don't use a system, or who have very limited experience with it, should honestly not pollute the discussion about its "quality", let alone its "value". Personally, it took me a long time in Early 2019 to learn to use NOA, and now "FSD Beta" effectively. I don't believe a 1 month trial...

There's another detail here. People who talk about enjoying "driving" are living in the past. Way in the past. Several people have hit it on the head. Driving from point A to Point B is now more like individual cabins hitching up to a train. The freeway. The highway, the city Boulevards, and...

I'm on the stock as well. But I use and love what the package, including FSD Beta, does. Stock is great, but having the use of the features is even better, it's worth tying up a few shares. I'd be SO depressed if I lost Beta FSD access. NOA was extremely useful, and now having it on the streets...

As far as "phantom" slowdowns, it's almost Entirely speed limit change issues for me now. When does a "recommended" speed count as a limit? And those rapid speed changes that humans just ignore? There are spots where 10.8.1. does the human thing and "turns a blind eye" because if it literally...

Wow, are any of the naysayers actually USING It? I use all of it, I mean NOA to FSD Beta. I never use TACC or base autopilot, no idea how that works. I speak my destination and it just does it. I'm not crazy about the UI changes at all, but hey. BTW, does anyone know how to display the driver...

@ucmndd said: People that anthropomorphize their cars creep me the fugg out. I'm sorry to add to your discomfort. I can't speak for others, but in my my case my wife offers many features that Nicki The Tesla lacks. Yet I think it fair to explain a couple of things. First, I find the wokey...

Went out to dinner tonight in Oakland. How odd. Many people out circling, looking for an open restaurant at 8:00, and all of them closed or just closing. Short on staff. And they complain about "lack of business". Crazy. Finally found a place where the atmosphere was like the ship's mates were...

I have had it since 2018 as AP EAP w/ NOA -> HW 3 -> FSD Beta. I use it within its capabilities all the time, including Freeways, Highways, City streets. After 3 years I know how to best take advantage of it. Nicki and I drive better together than either of us alone. I love it. It's an integral...

I have radar and had like 3 slowdowns over 3 years, so infrequently it was Effectively nil. With FSD Beta now, apparently the radar is disabled. But a lot more stuff has changed. All of the slowdowns (never had "braking") are related to the imperfect reading of map data and speed limit signs...

It takes a few weeks of steady use to overcome fear and for your brain to adapt to the different way of driving with NOA. A one month rental is not a good trial. I would urge people who rent it to be persistent and never give up like after a month. I had purchased the EAP package with the 2018...

I guess my previous cars must have been horrible because the auto high beams and wipers work Ok on this Model3. The wipers come on on dry rarely to clear the front Cameras, but I keep all the cameras clean. Driving in muddy conditions I wipe 'em down at every pit stop. The rear camera is poorly...

I'm on 10.6.1 and I just auto-parked at a Supercharger again today, like yesterday. It DOES seem harder to engage, but it's there. I don't agree with the "more trouble" view of FSD-beta. I don't have it on all the time, unlike Freeway NOA, that is on 100% of the highway time. I'm a hard Core 3...

The people who think Lidar should be added are imagining adding a waffle iron to a microwave oven. That said, I think that any level of "FSD", with ANY sensor set, becomes impractical in heavy enough Weather. Even the most advanced aircraft are grounded at times. Humans take truly...

And I can't believe I've gotten higher speed Internet and I come to this forum and there's STILL no improved technology. It's the same old click-bait and whining. Real Danger, @niecrenier? use the stalk, read the manual, and learn to use the voice commands.

This hadn't occurred to me: maybe our cars don't have problems because we "fanboys" create a nurturing environment for the "mind" of the car. Did you even give your car a friendly name? If Service doesn't fix your problems, after the third party stuff is removed or validated, you're down to...

As to the AI Driver clip, at 3:03 Auto-steering (blue wheel) is already OFF. He was just wiggling the wheel hoping to stop the annoying alert. I've had the red wheel alert stay up for well over a minute once, maybe two. Got stuck. Even as I was back to driving. One thought. Anybody using ANY...

There are so many unknowns here. I didn't see the video, but it's possible the OP had inadvertently disengaged auto-steer before the car crossed the line, so the car just kept going, no fault of the AP/FSD. I've had that happen many times. An experienced AP/NOA/FSD user would have reacted more...