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  1. hacer

    Rated miles vs Wh/mi

    I'm a new owner, model S 70D refresh (and thus an actual 75 kWh battery but software limited to 70); I've had the car 12 days now. I notice that every day when I go to charge my car that the rated miles consumed exceeds the actual miles, even though my Wh/mi since last charge always seems quite...
  2. KevinThornberry

    400 mile range battery hint on Tesla's main page

    If you look at the dashboard picture on the Model S main page, it shows a battery indicator on the bottom left of the screen indicating 242 miles remaining on charge. This indicator is not more than 60% full which would equate to a total range of over 400 miles when charged to 100%. Link for...
  3. M

    Model X Towing Performance?

    Does anyone have any real experience towing something substantial with the Model X? I am considering purchasing one and before I do I want to better understand the towing situation. I have been trying to get information but not very successfully. I talked to someone at Tesla who actually said...
  4. omgwtfbyobbq

    Model 3 Specification Speculation

    Since it's fun to speculate, I threw together a little python script that uses the EPA FTP-75/HWFET traces and the unadjusted EPA rating of the S 70D to guess at Model 3 range. Using an admittedly crude comparison, I'm guesstimating a 55kWh 3 will hit 240+ mile combined and 75kWh 3 will hit 325+...
  5. wildtigg3r

    P85+ Battery Range @ 90% and 100%

    Hi All, I've been searching for the information I want but I can't seem to find it. I'm hoping some of you P85+ owners might be able to help me out. What is the range you are getting when you charge your P85+ at 90% and 100%? Majority of the information I am getting are for 85 or P85 with the...
  6. Tes LA

    So what are the things that reduce range in a Tesla

    Hey everyone, was doing some reading last night on these forums about the < 60kwh battery and what the potential epa would be in the base Model 3. I guess the next logical question for me would be, what are the things that would potentially reduce range? I believe reading somewhere the pano...
  7. LargeHamCollider

    Poll: How is Tesla getting to 100kWh? and some history.

    Tesla's battery marketing labels ("85kwh" etc.) aren't precise descriptions of pack capacity making this a bit trickier, for background here's a brief history of Tesla's batteries. Some time after the car went on sale 85 owners noted that their cars never showed anywhere near 85kwh used. This...
  8. Haxster

    Pondering 100kWh and 120kWh batteries

    So, if these batteries become available for the S/X, here are some questions: How much will they cost? Can they be retrofitted? Are they improved chemistry/construction or just more volume? How much more will they weigh? How much thicker might they be? How much will they increase range? Will...
  9. David29

    Some practical observations about the range of a 70D in winter

    The purpose of this post is to report some practical experience with a Model S 70D in winter. The focus is on energy consumption and real range, not on other aspects of performance. When I ordered my 70D last summer (July 2015), the model had only been available for a few months, and no one had...
  10. GasKilla

    Front license plate and range

    Has anyone tested how actual range is impacted by having a front license plate vs. not having a front plate?
  11. bartdv

    Reserve km's na 0 stand gewijzigd

    Hebben Julie hier ervaring mee. Krijg tegenstrijdige antwoorden bij tesla. (Uk vs ,Bel) Blijkbaar was er een kleine reserve van een 20 km voorzien. Sinds 7.1 zou deze reserve volledig weg zijn en 0 zou dus nu effectief 0 zijn. Dit zou eveneens verklaren waarom bij vele de range anders is na de...
  12. DrivingTheFuture

    Chevy Bolt is Ugly, Model 3 Still Poised to outsell if Attractively Designed

    For those who are worried about Chevy beating Tesla to the table, don't be concerned. As long as Tesla sticks to it's usual design methodology and Franz delivers a beautiful car, they will sell QUITE well. Also remember the incredible charging infrastructure they have been building out for years...
  13. G

    Is 37 more miles worth $13,000?

    Like many of you, I've been waiting years for the X. Now it is finally within my grasp. I received my email to configure the X. My quandary is to go for the 70 or 90. The money miser side is of me is saying it's not worth $13,000 to get an extra 37 miles of range. I realize that the air...
  14. G

    Buy or Lease the X... hoping for longer range

    I've been eagerly awaiting for this car to go into production since 2012! I decided not to buy the Model S and wait 2 years for the X. Of course I was not thinking it was "Musk years". So after waiting over 4 years to buy a Tesla I cannot wait any longer. I am very pleased with the Model X...
  15. ArtInCT

    P90D - LUDICROUS & RANGE - Expectations and Performance

    I am currently circling the P90D with Ludicrous option. It is obvious that perhaps TESLA has not published the actual EPA numbers for the P90D with Ludicrous as of this date. The P85D is listed as 253 miles on a full charge... with the RANGE option added which results in a P90D, the 6% should...
  16. finallybuying

    What range will 90D battery really have? how much more than 85D does $3k get you?

    In the blog post here: Three Dog Day | Tesla Motors It says: "New buyers now have the option of upgrading the pack energy from 85 to 90 kWh for $3k, which provides about 6% increased range. For example, this takes our current longest range model, the 85D, to almost 300 miles of highway range...
  17. G

    70D Road Trip range

    Hello all, I have had my 70D for about a month and am preparing for my first road trip. I need to make the jump from Worthington, MN Supercharger to Council Bluffs, IA Supercharger. Distance appears to be 199.6 mi. I have a lifetime average of 286 wh/mi over 2k miles, but no long distance...
  18. Strib

    Different chargers - different miles

    Yay! I finally finished all the work on the breaker panels and the #4 wiring in the garage over to where I mounted the Roadster High Power Charger (Clipper Creek), and all is well. No longer am I using my 110VAC mobile charger at 15A - I've set my new charger to 56A, 220VAC! But... I'm...
  19. chriSharek

    Is the 85D worth the additional $10k over the 70D?

    Would love to hear from 70D and 85D owners here. I'm ordering in 10 days and I think I'm willing to give up the SAS for the 85D (to stay within my wife's price range). If it was only the additional performance for $10k - I'd say it wasn't worth it. If it was only the additional range for $10k...
  20. M

    Good rated range, bad rated range, let's share: Public Shared Editable Spreadsheet

    I decided to create a google doc excel type page that everybody can edit even without a google account. Would you all care to share your information? I put mine in: 32500 miles with 243 rated range at 100% You have the choice to put it in miles or km. You guessed right, I am a Canadian :smile...
  21. A

    Elon Musk tweets software upgrade will increase P85D range

    Software update to achieve max efficiency (going to full idle on 2nd motor) is not out yet. Range of P85D should then closely match P85+. 85D has higher range than 85 when using the same tires. Sport tires have better handling, but 3% to 5% range impact. Tradeoff is worth it :) First: Elon...
  22. David99

    2.75% degradation after 30k miles

    As I wrote many times, using the rated range as a method to determine battery degradation is not an accurate way, IMHO. The standard method to measure battery capacity is to fully charge it, then fully discharge it (within healthy limits). When my 85 was new I did exactly that on a long trip...
  23. A

    Any real range numbers on driving long distances at 100-120 mph?

    I do some field research and photography in the White Mountains and around Death Valley. Ordered a P85D, and will be using it when the Lone Pine supercharger comes online. There are some stretches on I 395 and in the desert where you really can go fast and not see another car for half an hour...
  24. J

    Possible future efficiency gains

    With the the efficiency gains that the Dual motors has brought to the drivetrain, I was wondering, what else could Tesla do to improve eficiency? These are my guesses. Base range: 275 miles. + 5% by removing side-mirrors + 5% by installing regenerative suspension. + 5% by...
  25. D

    Range Reduced on Dual Motor Configs?

    I've been thinking about this since the Dual Motor versions of the Model S were announced in October. Here goes. I would argue that the realistic range of the Model S D configuration is actually LESS than the non-D. Here's my reasoning: For those of us who were around when the Model S was...
  26. winehillranch

    What's your favorite trip planning app?

    Hi, THanks in advance for your answers. I am searching for a great Tesla trip planning app. I've tried a couple but haven't found a super user friendly one yet. My husband is suffering from range anxiety, the tesla is really mine, and I need to find a great app so he won't make me travel in...
  27. mudmutt

    Complicated (?) commute question(s)

    Sorry for the long rambling post. If you think this is bad, you should talk to me in person... I have been diligently reading the forum posts and have scheduled a meeting with a local Tesla owner here in Pittsburgh (JakeP), but wanted to post this question to the broader audience to validate...
  28. robatbeach

    Any pre-supercharging options on way to Morgantown via I68?

    Looking to take Tesla on a road trip soon to Morgantown. I think we can make it, but with the mountains and cold wanted some emergency charging options. I know Somerset is coming, but it won't be in time. Looking at the charging maps on plug share and chargepoint, it looks like an EV wasteland...
  29. jcstp

    Tips for EV newcommers about Range and how to plan Roadtrips

    Addressing factors that cause range anxiety Putting some numbers on the factors that affect range How to plan a road trip - how long will it take? How to use the Energy Consumption for range projection (video) The Rules of Model S Road Tripping List Of Tips For Extending Range? EDITORS...
  30. B

    "Zero" means "Zero" - Caution about Vegas to LA trip!

    Dear all, we had a false sense of security after reading this blog as we set off in our 60 kw battery Tesla for our first road trip from LA to Vegas. It appears that issues between Barstow and Vegas are very underrated, plus there is a belief that there is a 20 mile reserve beyond zero. This...
  31. Madartist

    Increased range of P85+ over P85?

    I remember reading on the Tesla website when the Plus version first came out that the P85+ would have improved range over P85. I'm not sure why this would be the case...perhaps improved aerodynamics due to the suspension upgrade? Does anyone have any real life experience between the two to...
  32. Maarten ST

    Range Record Tesla Model S in Europe

    August 20th 2013, 22:00 hours. Four well-prepared students from Eindhoven University of Technology are ready to start the Athlon Real Long Distance Record with the Tesla Model S Performance with a 85 kWh battery. The objective of the record attempt is to show the possible range when only minor...
  33. Electric700

    Could Tesla Use Zinc-air Batteries at More than Five Times the Energy Density?

    A company called Eos is close to commercializing zinc-air battery technology. Imagine a Model S with this, able to go over 1,500 miles on a single charge with the same battery dimensions (or 750 miles if the battery dimensions are halved)! Zinc-air batteries have an energy density between 5 to...
  34. W

    New Tesla Model S Design and Range

    Does anyone know anything about when the next physical changes will take place on the Model S? I saw in a Bloomberg article that Musk said the following making me think, there may be some differences in a model if I bought it now vs. end of year. "By year end, engineers will slice the Model...
  35. M

    Rear negative camber affecting Model S range? Please weigh in!

    I know lolachampcar has detailed how rear negative camber in the Model S affects tire wear (amazing job documenting this BTW). I however would like to have a discussion on how it affects range. If you were able to change the camber to +0.5 instead of -1.5 how much range would you gain? I...
  36. ModelS1079

    East Coast Model S Road-Trip: Eight States and Two Six-Strings, a Father and his Son

    My son and I leave tomorrow for our first real East Coast Road Trip. While I have covered well-over 6,000 miles in 14 weeks, we will cover over 1,000 miles in the next six days. We have some goals, and I guess we can state them now and see where it all lands. To use our first Supercharger...
  37. Ben W

    Suggestion: 'Sport' Range Display Option

    I had a thought for future versions of the Model S firmware. Also sent this to Tesla directly. Currently, the Model S offers two choices for Range readout: "Ideal" (based on constant 55mph in perfect conditions), and "Rated" (based on the EPA driving cycle). These yield maximum ranges of 300...
  38. C.Ford

    To Range Charge or not to Range Charge?

    I have a 290 mile round trip I take acouple times a month. Along the route, there are no charging optionswithin 120 miles of my house. The majority of the time, the trip willinclude an overnight stay at the midpoint where there is a 14-50(240V/40A) charger, so no problem making it on the...
  39. SuperCoug

    When will we know the 5 Cycle Range numbers for the 60 KWH Model S?

    I am going to order the 60 KWH Model S and I've already received my Email from Tesla saying that it's time for me to lock in my order and configure my car. However, I have not yet confirmed my order because I'm still waiting to see the 5 cycle range estimates. I think most of us are expecting...
  40. efusco

    Nissan Leaf

    Nissan Zero Emission Website | Top Nissan Unveils 'LEAF' - The World's First Electric Car Designed for Affordability and Real-World Requirements YOKOHAMA, Japan, Aug. 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. today unveiled Nissan LEAF, the world's first affordable, zero-emission...