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0-60/30-50/50-70 comparative times for 70D/85D/P85D

This may be a silly question, but for comparable times with an ICE car, do they cruise at rolling speeds (as in the 30-50mph test), and then punch it? Or do they just extract the number from a 0-60 run? Or do they put the car in the lowest gear that they can before the test? I ask because the single gear advantage of the Model S could be even greater...
 

tga

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This may be a silly question, but for comparable times with an ICE car, do they cruise at rolling speeds (as in the 30-50mph test), and then punch it? Or do they just extract the number from a 0-60 run? Or do they put the car in the lowest gear that they can before the test? I ask because the single gear advantage of the Model S could be even greater...
I've seen all these numbers reported for ICE cars. 0-60, rolling start (5-60) are done starting in low gear for a manual. Most of the passing acceleration tests (30-50, 50-70) are done in cruise gear, giving slushboxes a better number than manuals, since they will downshift whereas the manual drivers don't (for test purposes, if not really life).
 
Norwegian forum user Bushy has reported in following times in the norwegian forum.
imperial (mph):
0-60 - 3,86
30-50 - 1,32

Metric ( kph):
0-10 - 0,145
0-20 - 0,54
0-30 - 0,93
0-40 - 1,324
0-50 - 1,716
0-60 - 2,11
0-70 - 2,509
0-80 - 2,963
0-90 - 3,478
0-100 - 4,063

All obtained using a G-tech device.

For some reason I am not allowed to edit wiki or post a link...

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sorry forgot to say that theese numbers are for the 85D

and now with link to source:
85D Test med Gtech måler. 0-100
 
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Norwegian forum user Bushy has reported in following times in the norwegian forum.
imperial (mph):
0-60 - 3,86
30-50 - 1,32

Metric ( kph):
0-10 - 0,145
0-20 - 0,54
0-30 - 0,93
0-40 - 1,324
0-50 - 1,716
0-60 - 2,11
0-70 - 2,509
0-80 - 2,963
0-90 - 3,478
0-100 - 4,063

All obtained using a G-tech device.

For some reason I am not allowed to edit wiki or post a link...

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sorry forgot to say that theese numbers are for the 85D

and now with link to source:
85D Test med Gtech måler. 0-100

That seems highly suspect.
 

3mp_kwh

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This may be a silly question, but for comparable times with an ICE car, do they cruise at rolling speeds (as in the 30-50mph test), and then punch it? Or do they just extract the number from a 0-60 run? Or do they put the car in the lowest gear that they can before the test? I ask because the single gear advantage of the Model S could be even greater...


I've seen all these numbers reported for ICE cars. 0-60, rolling start (5-60) are done starting in low gear for a manual. Most of the passing acceleration tests (30-50, 50-70) are done in cruise gear, giving slushboxes a better number than manuals, since they will downshift whereas the manual drivers don't (for test purposes, if not really life).


It's the window, as measured during a flat out run from a stop.


I'd expect "roll-on" would be an explicit qualification, if you're seeing results of a 50-70, etc. I doubt a cruise gear is used. Think about it. A slushbox shifts, as you note. A six speed would bog horribly, producing nowhere near what is possible. There's no point in "cruise gear" figures (unless maybe you're in a V-12 Jaguar). And, actually, many "slushboxes" are now automatic dual dry clutches (DCT, PDK, SMG, E-gear...).


Great thread. Tesla moving the 85 from 5.2 to 5.4, 0-60, is among the reasons it's due.
 
Here's my best time on my 85D : [email protected] SOC was around 86%. I had a passenger + around 80lbs in the frunk. 2.4.188 Firmware with OEM 19in tires. Exterior temp was around 72F and elevation 270' above sea level.

I should be able to get in the low 12.6 high 12.5 with en empty frunk + no passenger.

20150507_run3_12.676.jpg


It's the second run on this video :

 
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Bushy

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Hi. It was me that measured these times for my 85D. With a gtech pro something. I'm not sure if i had 1 foot rollout. So i do a new test in the end of this week. Without 1" and with. Since i think i can feel a bit difference in the launch after the new update. Propably in my head but... Good to now:)
 

sorka

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Manufacturer 50-70 published times are always top gear roll on times whenever possible so they are completely invalid when comparing to the MS. This is why you sometimes see ICE 50-70 times for one that are faster than another car despite having 200 hp less. You have to know what it was that was actually tested.

Using a VBOX, the S85 I have right now does it in 2.22 to 2.26 repeatedly on a 90% SOC. My P85D does it in 1.90 to 1.92 on a 90% SOC.
 

TM Website
Actual








0-600-6030-5050-7030-7070-9050-1001/4notes
40
6.5???????TMC 2013
60
5.75.52.02.94.9

14.2s @ 98mphC&D 2014
70D
5.25.12.03.15.1

13.8s @ 101mphC&D 2015
85
5.45.01.72.13.82.86.813.2s @ 110.9mphMotorTrend 2013
85D
4.43.861.32




Owner measured using Gtech SS
P85
4.24.01.41.93.32.76.412.4s @ 112.5mphMotorTrend 2013
P85D
3.13.051.151.652.802.505.8011.5s @ 115.7mphDragtimes 2015
Roadster reference3.73.71.32.03.33.78.712.6s @ 102mphRoad&Track 2011

Now there's a few more 85D's on the road - can anyone help fill the blanks? (I will be able to late November all being well!)
 

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