A 0-60 time drop of .5sec would automatically get you that Hoping they offer a boost soon!I would love a Boost on my LR! .5 sec faster in the 1/4 would be perfect.
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A 0-60 time drop of .5sec would automatically get you that Hoping they offer a boost soon!I would love a Boost on my LR! .5 sec faster in the 1/4 would be perfect.
I’m serious. No car is ever fast enough, right?Is that sarcasm or are you just a acceleration junkie? I mean the car is considered the fastest in the world and most are probably legitimately scared of full acceleration of the Plaid
Launch mode takes off about 1/10th of a second in my experience. I've not timed my runs w/o preconditioning in Drag Strip Mode, so I can't speak to how much difference that makes, but I imagine it's some, even if you've just been charging. (It would have been interesting to know how long it would have needed to be "peak performance ready" after charging. Probably not long, but probably not instantly, either.)Drag strip mode was not used. I don't see how it is going to improve the launch as I don't think traction was an issues.
I do think that Tesla is really limiting the launch. The car has 670hp and at launch it doesn't feel it. BUT as you have noticed the car pulls hard after 30mph. The MS LR will be faster than M3P after 30mph for sure. I am really hoping Tesla either improves the launch or offers boost upgrade.I bought a Dragy on vacation just to get some times in. I'll start off by saying I am not at all happy with the result. As I said earlier in this thread, I was certain my car was not running anywhere close to 3.1 0-60. It was really disappointing. I'll set the stage for the runs. I had just charged the car to 97% to go on a trip. It was fresh off the charger. I ran 3 runs in about a 10 min span. I have also included a time from my M3 LR w/boost that was at 75% charge. It is the slowest show but not by as much as you might think.
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Drag strip mode was not used. I don't see how it is going to improve the launch as I don't think traction was an issues. So unless it is diverting more power to the motor, which I doubt, I don't see much of an improvement. My car is at least .4 seconds off the claimed time of the MS LR. That is a HUGE amount. I knew driving it felt softer than I thought it should but the midrange seemed like it really started to pull. I didn't have an opportunity to do a 1/4 mile run. I did get a 30-80 mph run in and it was 3.24 seconds. I also had a valid 30-70 mph run which was 2.47 second.
To put my MS LR times in perspective, the last M3P I tested, would have beat my LR to 60. I think it ran a 3.28 to 60 which is over .2 seconds quicker than my MS LR. When I get a chance I'll try and run it with dragstrip mode engaged by I don't think I'll see any big difference.
So it seems some of the early times I saw posted for other LRs, confirm the disappointing numbers I am seeing. A .4 second gap from claimed is huge. Something is seriously limiting the power at launch. When I have a chance to run dragstrip mode and see if it makes a difference I'll post here. For now I am just seriously disappointed. My M3 w/boost is almost as quick to 60 as my MS LR. Hopefully some other people can post more runs and see if there is a real problem here.
I do think you should try drag mode with cheetah. You may be able to get the claimed 3.1sec.I bought a Dragy on vacation just to get some times in. I'll start off by saying I am not at all happy with the result. As I said earlier in this thread, I was certain my car was not running anywhere close to 3.1 0-60. It was really disappointing. I'll set the stage for the runs. I had just charged the car to 97% to go on a trip. It was fresh off the charger. I ran 3 runs in about a 10 min span. I have also included a time from my M3 LR w/boost that was at 75% charge. It is the slowest show but not by as much as you might think.
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Drag strip mode was not used. I don't see how it is going to improve the launch as I don't think traction was an issues. So unless it is diverting more power to the motor, which I doubt, I don't see much of an improvement. My car is at least .4 seconds off the claimed time of the MS LR. That is a HUGE amount. I knew driving it felt softer than I thought it should but the midrange seemed like it really started to pull. I didn't have an opportunity to do a 1/4 mile run. I did get a 30-80 mph run in and it was 3.24 seconds. I also had a valid 30-70 mph run which was 2.47 second.
To put my MS LR times in perspective, the last M3P I tested, would have beat my LR to 60. I think it ran a 3.28 to 60 which is over .2 seconds quicker than my MS LR. When I get a chance I'll try and run it with dragstrip mode engaged by I don't think I'll see any big difference.
So it seems some of the early times I saw posted for other LRs, confirm the disappointing numbers I am seeing. A .4 second gap from claimed is huge. Something is seriously limiting the power at launch. When I have a chance to run dragstrip mode and see if it makes a difference I'll post here. For now I am just seriously disappointed. My M3 w/boost is almost as quick to 60 as my MS LR. Hopefully some other people can post more runs and see if there is a real problem here.
I think I am too far away to get there. That is a huge amount; 0.4 seconds is a massive gap to close when basically the car launched perfectly every time.I do think you should try drag mode with cheetah. You may be able to get the claimed 3.1sec.
I think the launch is softened to widen the gap of the Plaid. If a 1020hp Plaid has no issue with drivetrain wear then why should a 670hp version?IMHO, the launch is softened for sure. It's likely that way to prevent excess drivetrain wear from the many launches that some owners do.
I feel like the vehicle has adequate power as produced.
You may be surprised. Conditioning the battery (drag mode), lowering the front (cheetah) for better traction may just do the trick.I think I am too far away to get there. That is a huge amount; 0.4 seconds is a massive gap to close when basically the car launched perfectly every time.
What it is really disappointing is comparing it to my M3 LR w/boost. Nothing special, just punch it and go, and even with 70-75% charge level it is just a touch slower than my MS LR. The power to weight advantage of the S over my 3 is pretty big but if someone in my 3 got the jump on me at the light it would likely beat my S to 60.
The mid range pull has been the most fun part of the car. The car really feels like a dog immediately off the line. This is where my LR isn't matching up to what is claimed by Tesla. I read Omar's thread about using dragstrip mode for his Plaid and it made about .1 seconds difference.You may be surprised. Conditioning the battery (drag mode), lowering the front (cheetah) for better traction may just do the trick.
That being said I think your Model S LR should be awesome above 30mph....much much faster than your M3 LR. As a matter of fact, the MS LR is indeed a LOT faster than even the M3 P in the 1/4 mile.
Yeah I've noticed something similar. Initial launch is slow but it gets strong even after 20mph. Also remember that this car has 670hp, the older P100DThe mid range pull has been the most fun part of the car. The car really feels like a dog immediately off the line. This is where my LR isn't matching up to what is claimed by Tesla. I read Omar's thread about using dragstrip mode for his Plaid and it made about .1 seconds difference.
Not a huge one but significant given the times the car was running. I would argue that for the Plaid it is even more important to condition the batteries as it is using the same pack as the LR but has to generate about 50% more power. Hence the need for optimal temperatures to feed the current demands.
I would just try it. You never know. The Plaid is also reaching the limits of its tires. Who knows the LR may do .3sec better. Also note that .1 sec in the 2.0 sec range is probably more like .2 sec in the 3.0 sec range.The mid range pull has been the most fun part of the car. The car really feels like a dog immediately off the line. This is where my LR isn't matching up to what is claimed by Tesla. I read Omar's thread about using dragstrip mode for his Plaid and it made about .1 seconds difference.
Not a huge one but significant given the times the car was running. I would argue that for the Plaid it is even more important to condition the batteries as it is using the same pack as the LR but has to generate about 50% more power. Hence the need for optimal temperatures to feed the current demands.
What wheels and tires do you have(Edit: I see in your sig 19" so that isn't the issue)? I shaved .3 seconds off of my Model 3 Performance 0-60 mph by using smaller and lighter wheels along with preconditioning properly. The Tesla acceleration claims only apply to certain wheel and tire combinations. If you have the 21" wheels then that can slow you down a lot sometimes.I think I am too far away to get there. That is a huge amount; 0.4 seconds is a massive gap to close when basically the car launched perfectly every time.
What it is really disappointing is comparing it to my M3 LR w/boost. Nothing special, just punch it and go, and even with 70-75% charge level it is just a touch slower than my MS LR. The power to weight advantage of the S over my 3 is pretty big but if someone in my 3 got the jump on me at the light it would likely beat my S to 60.
Thanks for the thoughts. I want to get as close to the promised performance as I can so I have a baseline before any other mods. I had forged wheels for my Y and absolutely no measurable improvement in any acceleration times but the car felt a lot more nimble.What wheels and tires do you have(Edit: I see in your sig 19" so that isn't the issue)? I shaved .3 seconds off of my Model 3 Performance 0-60 mph by using smaller and lighter wheels along with preconditioning properly. The Tesla acceleration claims only apply to certain wheel and tire combinations. If you have the 21" wheels then that can slow you down a lot sometimes.
Try it with full dragstrip mode and make sure you aren't going uphill. Your Dragy results indicate a significant uphill. Try to find a place that is just below the -.99% downhill. That actually makes a big difference.
Here are my best Model 3 Performance 0-60 mph times(Stock and with 18” wheels) for comparison.I bought a Dragy on vacation just to get some times in. I'll start off by saying I am not at all happy with the result. As I said earlier in this thread, I was certain my car was not running anywhere close to 3.1 0-60. It was really disappointing. I'll set the stage for the runs. I had just charged the car to 97% to go on a trip. It was fresh off the charger. I ran 3 runs in about a 10 min span. I have also included a time from my M3 LR w/boost that was at 75% charge. It is the slowest show but not by as much as you might think.
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Drag strip mode was not used. I don't see how it is going to improve the launch as I don't think traction was an issues. So unless it is diverting more power to the motor, which I doubt, I don't see much of an improvement. My car is at least .4 seconds off the claimed time of the MS LR. That is a HUGE amount. I knew driving it felt softer than I thought it should but the midrange seemed like it really started to pull. I didn't have an opportunity to do a 1/4 mile run. I did get a 30-80 mph run in and it was 3.24 seconds. I also had a valid 30-70 mph run which was 2.47 second.
To put my MS LR times in perspective, the last M3P I tested, would have beat my LR to 60. I think it ran a 3.28 to 60 which is over .2 seconds quicker than my MS LR. When I get a chance I'll try and run it with dragstrip mode engaged by I don't think I'll see any big difference.
So it seems some of the early times I saw posted for other LRs, confirm the disappointing numbers I am seeing. A .4 second gap from claimed is huge. Something is seriously limiting the power at launch. When I have a chance to run dragstrip mode and see if it makes a difference I'll post here. For now I am just seriously disappointed. My M3 w/boost is almost as quick to 60 as my MS LR. Hopefully some other people can post more runs and see if there is a real problem here.
Do one pass near 100% battery with full preconditioning and cheetah stance. That is what their claimed numbers are based off of.I went out and ran some runs today. The best runs I got were still worse than @mpgxsvcd. I am sorting through my notes so I can upload the runs. I tried with and without dragstrip mode, dragstrip mode with and without Cheetah mode.
I also pulled out everything of the car I possibly could. All covers, CCS connector, pencils, napkins, pretty much everything but the floor mats. I started at 84% charge. I think the batteries were very close to temp as it took less than a minute of turning on drag strip mode and it said the batteries were at temps.
I'll post the runs when I can get them all off the phone and sorted out. Every run today was quicker than my previous best run even with about 13% lower Soc (84 vs 97%). Early analysis says at best dragstrip w/Cheetah is worth at best about 0.1 seconds, if that, on my car. My fastest run was the first run. If being generous, and assuming it makes that much of a difference, I could subtract another 0.1 seconds as an adjustment for the SoC not being in the mid to high 90% range.
Some good news in the runs is the first 4 were super consistent and in a tight bracket, and then the next group were about 0.1 seconds slower but a pretty tight group as well. I should be able to upload them later tonight.