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1.5 still getting 188 to 185 on standard charge

What range are you getting on original battery on standard charge?


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Just amazed at the engineering that went into these cars.

I have a 08 1.5 that regularly charges to 188 - 185 standard charge miles. I think this is the best-preserved roadster battery left.

The original owner never used 240v higher amps and never range charged it. Lived in Seattle. Purchased in Jan 2020 with 9900 miles.

I only use 240v 16A for a short time when PEM/battery are hot on range charge to cool pack and then go back to 110V standard charge.

Was thinking of a poll - what standard charge range are we getting now?

Maybe I should contact Tesla and let them study my pack? Or is this more normal than I think?
 

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Mine is right at 160 now. 2010 2.0 53.8k miles. I'm the second owner, getting the car in December 2014. The car charged to 174 back then, and has declined fairly steadily year by year. I rarely range charge; mostly it gets standard charged at 24 amps, 240 volts. No idea what the original owner did.
 
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When I got #187 back in January 2019 with 54k miles on it, it charged to 160 on standard. I have since added maybe 2k miles, increased the mechanical drag (245 width rears and 205 fronts), and increased the aerodynamic drag with an Exige roof w/scoop. I now get about 146 on a standard charge.
Mmmm, that doesn't sound right. Mechanical drag won't affect what the car charges to, in terms of "ideal miles". Perhaps you have it displaying "Estimated miles" instead?
 
Just amazed at the engineering that went into these cars.

I have a 08 1.5 that regularly charges to 188 - 185 standard charge miles. I think this is the best-preserved roadster battery left./QUOTE]

BTW, the poll question was a bit confusing. Didn't know if we were supposed to answer with "Ideal" range or "estimated" range. I answered with the latter. My estimated range is typically in the 165 range, but I've seen higher depending on how I'm driving and if I have the heat off. The ideal range is quite a bit higher usually, however.
 
BTW, the poll question was a bit confusing. Didn't know if we were supposed to answer with "Ideal" range or "estimated" range. I answered with the latter. My estimated range is typically in the 165 range, but I've seen higher depending on how I'm driving and if I have the heat off. The ideal range is quite a bit higher usually, however.
Ideal range should be what is needed.

Estimated range depends on the last 30-ish miles of driving, so is intended to give you, the driver, an idea of how you're doing with managing your driving and charging. It says little about the health of the battery. Arguably, a "properly" driven Roadster will show a lower Estimated range than Ideal :)

Ideal range is just the battery's state of charge, and includes the battery health over time. It's based on steady driving on a level road at something like 55 or 60 miles per hour, not the actual of what the car has experienced. When traveling some distance, I often can do a little better than Ideal in real-world driving, if I'm careful. It's a little game that one can play, along with trying to time your use of Regen to minimize the use of the friction brakes.

Note that the Roadster uses a different set of terms for range estimates than the Models S/X/3.
 
Ideal range should be what is needed.

Estimated range depends on the last 30-ish miles of driving, so is intended to give you, the driver, an idea of how you're doing with managing your driving and charging. It says little about the health of the battery. Arguably, a "properly" driven Roadster will show a lower Estimated range than Ideal :)

Ideal range is just the battery's state of charge, and includes the battery health over time. It's based on steady driving on a level road at something like 55 or 60 miles per hour, not the actual of what the car has experienced. When traveling some distance, I often can do a little better than Ideal in real-world driving, if I'm careful. It's a little game that one can play, along with trying to time your use of Regen to minimize the use of the friction brakes.

Note that the Roadster uses a different set of terms for range estimates than the Models S/X/3.

My attached pictures were both ideal range but that is a good clarification.
 
186-188 miles in std charge. CAC 155,51, 2.0 produced oct 2009, original battery. Car has only run 7400miles since new. Always standardcharged on low amps household socket. Cold climate. Former owner only has rangecharged once and always driven carfeully. New PEM two and a haly years ago.

So there are original batterys still performing high numbers but probably very seldom, AND unfortunatelly no guarantee that it will stay safe for long because of this.
 

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186-188 miles in std charge. CAC 155,51, 2.0 produced oct 2009, original battery. Car has only run 7400miles since new. Always standardcharged on low amps household socket. Cold climate. Former owner only has rangecharged once and always driven carfeully. New PEM two and a haly years ago.

So there are original batterys still performing high numbers but probably very seldom, AND unfortunatelly no guarantee that it will stay safe for long because of this.

How come the AH logs are blank?
 
On the other hand 95 miles is probably 1/2 of that in reality if you drive it for fun.

Are you in line for a 3.0 battery? Just keep going till it dies?
The fun is almost gone. You are right. If you push the car you end up with 50 miles of range.
Next to that I presume they're is an algorithm built in that lowers the maximum output if the voltage drop too much. So when the range goes down to 75 miles, maximum output is 100kW and when range goes down to 40 miles maximum output is reduced to 50kW.
Yesterday I was beaten by a Nissan leaf at the traffic light. :(:mad:

And yes I have ordered a new pack but am ignored by Tesla. I ask every month when delivery will start and they tell me they don't know. Waiting for 2 years now.
 
how many PEMS and PEM fans has your roadster gone through? what items do you recommend we get maintenance often to keep our roadsters running for that many miles?
I consider myself lucky. Just 1 maintenance cleaning every year I.e. every 30.000 miles. No major issues beside new radiator for AC, new blower for cabin heating, new Cooling fan (for PEM and electric motor) at 200.000 miles, new shock absorbers rear, in front they are leaking now and numerous amount of tires:cool:

By the way, mine is a 2.0 sport from 2009.
 
I have a 2011 2.5 sport and get around 184 miles ideal range. I have never range charged the car and never plan to. Bought it with about 6700 miles so previous owner may have range charged it. I don’t know.

I charge at 240V at either 10 or 12 amps. 10 amps is achievable using OVMS. I have 11,265 miles on the car and CAC is 150.77 on the original battery.
 
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I have nearly 40K miles on my Roadster now, am getting 176 - 178 (std) in the still chilly weather. CAC 149. I've only range charged 3 times, charge at 240/24. I suspect that my Roadster, which only had 1K miles when I got it at 3 years old, was kept in storage mode and got way out of balance; brick #91 is always the lowest.