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10/21 Munich Tesla Event with Elon Musk

Discussion in 'Tesla, Inc.' started by nikwest, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. Krugerrand

    Krugerrand Well-Known Member

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    Yes, yes...that came after I graduated. I was talking about the bottles of whiteout that you painted on like nail polish, blew on for 5 minutes to dry it, then retyped over it.
     
  2. tslafan123

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    Thank You! I still don't see a clip with comments on Panasonic unfortunately. I found this text on Motley Fool though:

    "Musk reassured his audience about the current anxiety surrounding Tesla's battery cell supply. He stated that Panasonic is set to increase its battery manufacturing capacity to allow Tesla to build between 1,200 and 1,500 cars a week by the end of next year. Samsung and LG are also stepping up as secondary suppliers to make sure the supply of battery cells keeps up with the demand."

    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/22/elon-musk-a-prototype-of-teslas-gen-iii-in-12-mont.aspx
     
  3. ggies07

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    I thought it was interesting to find out that they really aren't as focused on the Gen III as we might think. It's just sketches right now and a prototype won't appear until 2015. Elon seems so calm about it, I wonder if he is the same behind the scenes because it's a huge idea to take on.
     
  4. brianman

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    Just one take...

    I don't think Tesla is "very far" on the actual Gen3 car(s) design. Tesla and I probably agree that they don't need to be. They also don't want to be -- locking down specifics this early (especially publicly) limits their options and/or makes it likely they will have to issue corrections/modifications/etc. that are reasonable and/or trivial but fuel the hysterics of the anti-Tesla and/or anti-EV crowd.

    Elon is looking at the real challenges of Gen 3 like the supply chain, charging infrastructure, factories, etc. The actual vehicle specifics will be resolved in due time and, currently, take a back seat (not literally) to Model X design and keeping Model S (re)design/new-optionality/retrofits running smoothing.
     
  5. clmason

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    #105 clmason, Oct 22, 2013
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    Kevin - he can back away from the company without selling his stake. He can hire a CEO and free up most of his time for SpaceX and retain his stake. Similar to his involvement in SolarCity as chairman of the board.

    IMO, there is no reason for him to sell to major automaker. Musk has also mentioned plans for his legacy and Tesla. If I recall correctly he said that he admired Ford and how the Ford family is still part of the company. Therefore, "last money out" I take to be not selling for a very long time, if not ever selling ever.
     
  6. Dschulle

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    Elon talked from 20:00-21:10, so there should be more than an hour of video...
     
  7. jvonbokel

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    From watching the video, he was asked about when 3rd party development would be opened, and he talked a bit about their focus right now. He says they're doing a lot of localization of the software to enable rollouts in various countries. He also said there are a handful of other things they'd like to get done before they open it up, such as upgrading the browser to Chrome. Then he mentioned that the current code is written in Linux using the QT library.
     
  8. DonPedro

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    This.

    A project like this starts with a concept phase that could be of any duration. A small team is throwing around ideas, soaking them in caffeine and beers, doing analysis at the back of napkins and drawing sketches to drool over. Then they do it again and again, until it comes together. They probably have a checklist of what the concept should be that they check the evolving concept(s) against.

    Then they go out to suppliers and ask them what they can do. Then they go back to the previous paragraph for some time again.

    I don't believe the team gets a whole lot bigger even while they are building the prototype. Maybe the manufacturing guys start looking at it before then, but maybe not all that much.

    Once the concept is set, some time after the prototype, the fun begins. A huge engineering project is born. I think that this is the stage the Model X got to this quarter, since Elon guided a significant R&D cost increase due to Model X. The GenIII is not likely to get to that stage for at least another two years, IMHO.
     
  9. folsomev

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    Hotels Yosemite Valley

    There is a 7kW J1772 EVSE at Yosemite Village. The EVSE is upgradable to 16 kW if they come up with the circuit. Of course, a 16 kW EVSE at the Ahwahnee would be a welcome improvement.
     
  10. kenliles

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    He's quoted in he talk as saying
    "Oh god, fuel cell is so bullsh*t. Hydrogen is suitable for the upper stage of rockets, but not for cars."

    That ought to get some folks stirred up
     
  11. JRP3

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    Funny that someone in the audience claims to work in the fuel cell sector, and agreed with Elon.
     
  12. DaveT

    DaveT Searcher of green pastures

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    Just what I was going to say. :)
     
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    I would tend to disagree. There have been many guesses as to how focused Tesla is on Gen3 but nothing substantive. I think it has been clear they are focused on the Model X.
    For Elon to finally discuss an estimated prototype timeline is encouraging and in some sense ground breaking.
     
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    It's a good start, but with just one Level 2 charging station in Yosemite I wouldn't risk a trip from the SF Bay Area. Yosemite needs some more Level 2 charging stations, and EV owners need a way to have guaranteed access to them. Could be accomplished with a reservation system or a valet who controls access.
     
  15. Norbert

    Norbert TSLA will win

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    I'm sure they keep innovating their technology and manufacturing along with Model S and Model X development iterations, and eventually the Gen3 will come out of that (just smaller and with fewer base features, aside from design).
     
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    I don't think Elon Musk will stay at tesla for very long after Model E release. He want to prove the EV concept for mass production. He is thinker and like to do something new (hyperloop or something else or spaceX for ordinary folks to visit mars for shopping...kidding).. he don't care about CEO title (fired previous tesla CEO because of not moving tesla in direction he wanted and other things..)
     
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    And gone again?

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    I have a really really far fetched idea. In fact, if someone would have suggested it a couple of weeks back I would have said no way. Now, not so sure....


    Elon didn't go to the opening of the first European supercharger network. Nor to one of the biggest auto shows this year (Frankfurt about a month ago). So an appearance at a service center in Munich all of a sudden?
    Doesn't add up...
    But wait, what's in Munich? BMW headquarters... Hmm...
    I read a hint somewhere that BMW would make some kind of announcement about electric mobility during October. Well October doesn't have many more days left and there will be a Tesla press release tomorrow about superchargers in Germany. Just a coincidence? Yes, probably it just is....
    Or not...


    These are just my ramblings, I have no facts and doesn't really know anything about this. Just putting some information I have read in the last couple of days together...
     
  19. lolachampcar

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    MB has deeper pockets and already has a toe in Tesla's bed.....
     

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