Reddy Kilowatt
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Got 10.8 this afternoon, just got home to down load it. 2020MS a beta 10.6.1
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On the subject of buttons you need quickly I remember the best button placement ever was is a 2010-11 BMW X5. The recirculate button was on the steering wheel right under your right thumb. We have a lot of depressed skunks that tend to jump in front of cars. Need a live microphone that listens for the word “SKUNK!” and it shuts off the outside air.This is my baseline - have buttons for things you have to do quickly. Things that can be done slowly don’t need a single button except for convenience - and that needs to be configurable.
All this will anyway be history once Tesla makes basic functions available as pinnable actions, rather than just apps.
Got it. Thanks.10.8 is only for beta the 25.6 build. 25.2 is just V11 and not 10.8.
I finally received it just earlier today! Excellent! 2021.44.25.6 (FSD 10.8).It looks like very FEW model S have gotten this update. And it looks like those that have gotten it are Model S Plaid or refresh model S. Maybe they are still working on some things for the S and will push an update for S soon?
We’ve got snow in the southeast part of WA as well and 10.8 has had its ass kicked by it. Even with clear driving lanes visible to a human, with the center and side striping covered by snow it struggles mightily.I'm in Seattle right now, and I tried FSD 10.8 on a snow-covered residential road, and it insisted on driving into the unplowed portion of the road. Nearly ready. Few understand this. March of 9s.
Interesting, same here with the passenger vent and the rear screen always on despite nothing on the back seats and no passengers. Curious why you don’t have the toggle in audio settings (same menu that lets you turn on/off immersive sound, and control your bass and treble) for noise reduction feature though. Toggled it on and off again while driving to see if I can tell the difference, nope. I guess I was expecting the same feel as the AirPods Pro when I initially heard they’re doing ANC in these cars. Sounds like the feature is in the same place as the Witcher, Cyberpunk, and other “console quality gaming”Don't have the toggle for Active Road Noise Reduction. Also my passenger vent is constantly on after the update as well as the rear screen is always on, both while driving not while charging etc.
Any one else with a Refresh S, possibly a LR not Plaid issue, not seeing the ANR and passenger vents staying active with no passenger after installing 2021.44.25.6
I first noticed it when the first try-out button software dropped with the safety score. Was doing a lot of driving on AP to not get dinged for dumb crap.Reacting to emergency lights was added in the mainstream release a couple months back, it's possible it didn't' make it into the Beta stack till now.
Ummm…it does put the windows down and uses the internal speakers. It doesn’t use pedestrian speaker.I agree the added features on the vertical screen is better. Just took me a little getting used to finding everything. Will do my test driving tomorrow.
Too bad Tesla doesn't give us the Light show with just indoor sound that keeps the windows down to be heard when no pedestrian speaker is available.
No, it is not. Elon said that single stack will come with v11. (Which is not very close to release from how I interpret what he was saying, it is currently in early alpha testing.)Do we know if 10.8 is single stack, as in not reverting to old NOA on the highway?
It's not. It's coming in V11 which Elon says is another major rewrite of the neural nets. Apparently the building of the vector space is currently done in procedural code from a "bag of points with probabilities" the neural net generates. He says V11 will build the vector space directly using neural nets. He considers building an accurate vector space the hardest aspect of autonomous driving.Do we know if 10.8 is single stack, as in not reverting to old NOA on the highway?
If you turn off the beta, will FSD revert to the old navigate on autopilot (NOA).
It will be vision only NOA even if you have radar on your car.If you turn off the beta, will FSD revert to the old navigate on autopilot (NOA).
Each has its own domain, and they don't overlap. NOA is used on controlled access highways regardless of the status of FSD. FSD is only used where NOA would not be applicable.If you turn off the beta, will FSD revert to the old navigate on autopilot (NOA).
It's not. It's coming in V11 which Elon says is another major rewrite of the neural nets. Apparently the building of the vector space is currently done in procedural code from a "bag of points with probabilities" the neural net generates. He says V11 will build the vector space directly using neural nets.
NoA still works in exactly the same places it always has- the beta has no impact on its use either way (other than potentially limiting max speed and follow distance because having the beta turns off radar for radar cars even on the highway).
The beta only operates on city streets and other non-limited-access non-freeway roads (places NoA does not).
On limited access highways it will be the same NOA whether you disable FSD Beta or not. You could temporarily opt out of Beta to return to the production version of NOA. It can take some time to get the new download after opting out, though.Thank you. I'm going on a road trip and could not use the beta at highway speeds. NoA (lane keeping) is predictable, takes about the same amount of attention as regular driving, plus the added AP safety benefits. FSD beta on the other hand requires 3x the attention and a vise grip hold on the wheel.