Yes, and historically Performance models on the other hand have been slower or had less kWh/hp etc. than advertised. It seems like a strategy to downplay the low-end and be overly optimistic about the high-end. Often I wish they didn't feel the need to do that. The cars are great as they are, just be consistent...
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Yes, and historically Performance models on the other hand have been slower or had less kWh/hp etc. than advertised. It seems like a strategy to downplay the low-end and be overly optimistic about the high-end. Often I wish they didn't feel the need to do that. The cars are great as they are, just be consistent...
3s-a-charm
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I'm in the same boat/dilemma. My P85D was more than enough for the trips we did take so as much as I want the latest... I'm leaning towards keeping my free supercharging and 90D. Also at nearly $7k CDN for the upgrade I'll put that towards light weight wheels
3s-a-charm
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Hopefully for Tesla's interior... it's one-step-back-then-two-steps-forward. Sometimes a retraction leads to a big jump up in features.Did I hit a nerve?
I have enjoyed steering many a fine Audi with my kind of interior, thank you very much. I am sure your Bentley GT is even finer than some of those.
I too moved to Tesla from all that. Tesla used to have around 50 different interior combinations. They had that when you ordered your 70D too. Now they have 9. That 50 was just fine. Not great but workable. 9 feels limited. To me, it takes one special bit away from speccing a premium car, making it your own - it's just so limited where there is so little choice...
The thing is, Tesla should take note. The competition is heating up and Tesla is, instead of improving, taking backwards steps in their interior (removal of seat ventilation was another such step). I'm hoping that they have actually taken note and the new interior design guy from Volvo is simply re-designing everything and this gradual limiting of the current offering is simply getting rid of all the stock until that happens.
Will be interesting to see if they take away free supercharging for any order changes.
Yep.
Tesla still has time, because as so many point out, their product is unique and they are forgiven stuff for it. Nobody else does a high-performance, long-range, self-driving family EV at this time. So if you want that, most will make 9 interior choices work.
That doesn't mean one has to like it... and especially, once alternatives become available, one doesn't have to buy it either. So, hopefully this is prelude to a massive improvement in interior quality and choice.
IMO the last thing we should send to Tesla is a signal their customers are OK with such limited interior. They should have the incentive to improve.
3s-a-charm
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I think there will be two distinct groups here (now and in the future) when it comes to present and future value:
1. Those who value free Supercharging more than the slightly longer range
2. Those who value the additional range over free Supercharging
It's a personal decision and one that would be MUCH easier if one were ordering today (no chance of free supercharging so the cost to upgrade to 100D is a no-brainer) but for those of us with the "first-world" dilemma of having ordered but not in production... it's going to be a personal choice of which is more/less valuable to you. I'm going to stick with the Supercharging
.If you leave home with a fully charged 100D and also charge at your destination, for a lot of trips you may not need to do paid supercharging as much.
P85DBeast
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+1 to this. Id rather have more range than free supercharging and with the 100D you won't be needing to supercharge that much. Wife can't wait until she gets her's. She doesn't really care about free supercharging anyways majority of the time she would plug her car in at home.
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I am still within my order change window, but the 100D is not avail when I try to edit my config...
Unless you are in the 7-day change window it would be at least $3,500/each to make the change. But they might bump you into the new pricing/option categories at the same time. It will be interesting to see how this is handled.
But of course judging by your signature, you wives 85D is your family's "second car" - they would naturally be more often driven locally than "first cars"...
When driving range, 90 kWh vs. 100 kWh doesn't really make that much of a difference. You still need to Supercharge at some point and preferably not at 0%. So I can definitely see someone who drives a lot long distance (assuming there is a Supercharger network), having a benefit in unlimited supercharging and selecting accordingly. Outside of a Supercharger network things of course change again.
I'm not really disagreeing with you, just broadening the discussed perspective a bit.
Yes, that would be interesting. What would be even more interesting if they will remove ventilated seats from changed orders - that would really piss me off, I can live without Supercharging.
I wish Tesla would offer a brushed aluminium interior along with the wood and the black lacquer. It would cost them only pennies as they have already got the stamping presses and the aluminium sheets for the other parts of the car. I bet it could be stamped out from the same sheets, wherever there is a wider "fringe" left, not even any extra sheets or production steps needed.
P85DBeast
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I wish they would bring back the "Old" 19'inch Wheels and the Grey Interior! (Tried to ask why! Told me that there was something going on with the supplier)
I just spoke with the manager at my service center, unfortunately at this time there is no avenue to upgrade my 90D to a 100kWh battery, possibly in the future.
P85DBeast
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Did I hit a nerve?
I have enjoyed steering many a fine Audi with my kind of interior, thank you very much. I am sure your Bentley GT is even finer than some of those.
I too moved to Tesla from all that. Tesla used to have around 50 different interior combinations. They had that when you ordered your 70D too. Now they have 9. That 50 was just fine. Not great but workable. 9 feels limited. To me, it takes one special bit away from speccing a premium car, making it your own - it's just so limited where there is so little choice...
The thing is, Tesla should take note. The competition is heating up and Tesla is, instead of improving, taking backwards steps in their interior (removal of seat ventilation was another such step). I'm hoping that they have actually taken note and the new interior design guy from Volvo is simply re-designing everything and this gradual limiting of the current offering is simply getting rid of all the stock until that happens.
Some say it's to "Stream Line Production" But how is taking away good things actually helping Tesla? We've been waiting a LONG time for vented seats, and a couple months after they are released they take it away? It's weird that they are removing the freely interior picking options and removing vented seats.
My working theory is Tesla knows the current interior is sub-par and of random quality (some parts better than others). Perhaps the new interior chief from Volvo is tasked to redesign it all. In the meanwhile they might be just slowly limiting their logistics and selling out the existing design...
Or maybe I am just hopeful that Tesla is learning and actually improving on the interior, instead of the other way around.
I mean the dash is fine, but the rest of the cars are quite a random collection as far as quality is concerned. It could use a comprehensive overhaul.
Jrogville
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I wish they could have gotten the EPA range over 300 miles. The Model S range improves 20 miles over the performance version, but the X only gets a 6 mile improvement.
