100D Real World Range - Los Angeles -> Vegas Strip without stopping?

[TimeFor]

Howdy Tesla people,

First post here. Considering buying a used 2017 Model X to replace my i3. I like the 100D version I believe but I'm open to pretty much any size/version I can get under 80k. I've previously leased two BMW i3's daily drivers. The lease is coming to and end and I'm seriously considering an X to replace it for daily driving. I have a level two charge point charger at home so I'm used to plugging in and leaving home fully charged. Google tells me from my house to the Wynn is 259 miles. The 100D from 2017 is 295 miles, right? Is that cutting it too close?

1. Range question - Can I realistically make Pasadena to Las Vegas Strip without stopping at normal (80 mph) speed?
2. Which casino's on the strip have charging? Will Valet handle that or am I on my own?

 

[Tam]

...Range question - Can I realistically make Pasadena to Las Vegas Strip without stopping at normal (80 mph) speed?...

No.

295 mile range is for a laboratory environment that not many drivers are willing to duplicate in real life.

I think you'll barely make it if you can drive conservatively at 65 MPH.

I would stop by a supercharger in the middle of the way and drive 80 or more MPH freely.

..Which casino's on the strip have charging? Will Valet handle that or am I on my own?

Some are self-service, others are by valet.

Please see PlugShare.com

 

[DCGOO]

Howdy Tesla people,

First post here. Considering buying a used 2017 Model X to replace my i3. I like the 100D version I believe but I'm open to pretty much any size/version I can get under 80k. I've previously leased two BMW i3's daily drivers. The lease is coming to and end and I'm seriously considering an X to replace it for daily driving. I have a level two charge point charger at home so I'm used to plugging in and leaving home fully charged. Google tells me from my house to the Wynn is 259 miles. The 100D from 2017 is 295 miles, right? Is that cutting it too close?

1. Range question - Can I realistically make Pasadena to Las Vegas Strip without stopping at normal (80 mph) speed?
2. Which casino's on the strip have charging? Will Valet handle that or am I on my own?

Only possibility is if you do not exceed 50 MPH, and run with no air conditioning, w the windows all closed, you might make it. Speed kills the range.

 

[TimeFor]

No.

295 mile range is for a laboratory environment that not many drivers are willing to duplicate in real life.

Please see PlugShare.com

Ah bummer. So you think even a new one with 325m wouldn't be able to do the trip? At least it does seem like most strip hotels have chargers. Wonder how crowded those get though on the weekends. I'm making the trek about once a month now. Currently taking my Tundra but ideally, I'd go full electric. Stopping in Barstow or Baker for 30 minutes isn't terrible I suppose.

Does anyone have experience charging at the casinos on the Vegas strip? Wynn or Cosmo particularly?

 

[Tam]

...325m...

I drive very conservatively. I let Autopilot does the work and I set it for 65 most of the times and sometimes to 70 MPH.

For a distance of 259 miles, the new 325 mile range Model X would work out fine without stopping for me.

I usually need only 50 mile buffer before starting my trip.

259 mile trip + 50 mile buffer = 309 miles on battery gauge.

325 mile battery is plenty for me but for most drivers who don't want to be restricted to conservative driving style, they'll need to make a Supercharger stop in between.

...Wynn or Cosmo particularly?

According to plugshare:

Wynn has valet only charger.

Cosmopolitan Hotel has none.

 

[ps004ynos]

I don't think you'll make it. On 20" tires keeping up with traffic, I get about 75% of quoted range. .75 x 295 = 221 miles.

Only way I could see this happening is if you draft a semi truck most of the way.

 

[rhumbliner]

Using PlugShare, find the hotels that offer valet charging. We’ve found that often times when the valet sees you have an EV they let you self-park. And be sure to tip them generously for the privilege of self-parking.

Non-valet charging is almost always ICE’d — we don’t even try to use those. In the past I’ve tried putting polite notes on those cars but most are tourists so it’s a losing battle.

 

[forkee]

you can try hypermiling it, but it won't be a comfortable drive. I would refuel in barstow and state line. then there's superchargers before the strip at the outdoor mall near Fry's Electronics and by Fremont street.

 

[ALLMYNE]

X100D owner here running 22’s.......75-80mph = around 200-210 miles range at best
Definitely worth stopping @ Barstow for a bathroom break and quick charge
Best way to go
Also, Bellagio has a couple wall chargers in their garage

 

[Snowstorm]

I find the Model S tesla range ratings are pretty much right on, and if off, not worse than 10% unless it is really cold outside (below freezing). If you drive close to the speed limit, in non winter weather, you do generally get near (sometime above) the rated range.

In that light, I would be totally comfortable to make a 260 mile trip with a 325 mile rated Tesla as long as it is not below freezing or if there is a lot of elevation gain. That route has a supercharger in the way, so even a 10 minute bathroom stop would further increase that buffer.

 

[BrokerDon]

I don't think you'll make it. On 20" tires keeping up with traffic, I get about 75% of quoted range. .75 x 295 = 221 miles.

Only way I could see this happening is if you draft a semi truck most of the way.

We stopped at Barstow & charged our 2015 P85D (with 21” Wheels & tires) long enough to get to Primm with 20% charge remaining. Then we ran into a NASTY headwind which Navigation quickly showed we weren’t going to make Primm. Drafted a Mercedes Sprinter van using Autopilot set to 1 to make it to Primm, just in time for a crazy dust storm “brownout” which turned into brown rain.

Needless to say, now we UNDER estimate our range and closely watch the X% remaining in Tesla Navigation AND run Tesla Winds in our browser to keep ane eye on head/crosswinds that could sap our range.

Oh and the recommendation to stop at Barstow (or somewhere else midway) really makes this trip easy. We always stop at Barstow and walk across the parking lot to El Pollo Loco for a bathroom break and meal. Our Tesla is always charged before we done eating.

 

[Accelev]

Mine needs 360w/mi at 110 km/h with tire pressure = 3,0 bar (45 psi).
Alternatively 345w/mi at 110 km/h with pressure = 3,5 bar (52,5 psi).
I have exactly flat highway nearby, so it's a repeatable result (except windy days).

 

[Rocky_H]

First post here.

Yes, I have seen this same question from new owners repeatedly, and I am still confused by why people are stuck in this gas car kind of mindset.

Ah bummer. So you think even a new one with 325m wouldn't be able to do the trip?

You have access to this amazing, astounding, fastest charging network that exists on Earth, and you are so dedicated to avoiding using it. Why? 259 miles at 80 mph is about 3.2 hours. Taking a 20 minute break to dump some super fast charging in is no big deal compared to giving yourself an ulcer trying to white-knuckle it driving down to near 0%.

That's the different mindset that makes this much easier. Just expect that somewhere in the 2-3 hour range, you stop, plug in, walk across the street and use the restroom and grab a coffee, and then you get back to the car and go. It's not a big thing and works really well.

 

[shiftelectrics]

Take note that there are also superchargers in Las Vegas, in the event that you don't have a hotel with a L2 Charger.