$12K for FSD is insane

[dbldwn02]

I don’t think this required. I see posts about tracking camera upgrades by mcu version …

I know they're getting camera upgrades. They don't get an FSD button though. Because our firmware is too old.

If there was an MCU1 car with FSD out there, we would have seen 2 or 3 new threads pop up on it.

 

[MorrisonHiker]

Isn’t there a very long thread here about how legacy model s/x guys are getting new rccb cameras for FSD beta ?

Wiki - FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting

Original Title: FSD’s earliest adopters find themselves again deprioritized and forgotten Wiki Content: ---------------------------- Camera Retrofit and FSD Beta rollout tracker: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bzW9brGBnM17IHNkfYzRHdbPMQa7BaFgRpuqn-jM0n0/edit#gid=0 Camera PN Tracker...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[AndreP]

The ongoing state of that thread is definitely not inspiring confidence around hardware upgrades

 

[Knightshade]

Meh, same thing happened with the HW3 upgrades--- initially it was slow, sloppy, and disorganized.

Eventually everyone who owned FSD and needed the upgrade got it, and for free.

 

[EVNow]

I know they're getting camera upgrades. They don't get an FSD button though. Because our firmware is too old.

If there was an MCU1 car with FSD out there, we would have seen 2 or 3 new threads pop up on it.

The doc has just a handful of MCU1 cars …. So, they may not prioritize it now …

 

[pilotSteve]

NHTSA has been asleep at the wheels for a long time.

Radar has been available for a long time and it was possible for auto makers to include AEB a couple of decades back. As usual the NHTSA which is basically completely controlled by automaker lobbyists dragged its feet and even now the "industry" has only agreed to include AEB in all the cars "voluntarily". Its insane how trillion dollar industry regulations can be bought off with a few 100k.

We have the best regulators the money can buy.

FWIW my wife has a 2015 Lexus RX350 with Mobileye (probably version 1) and in 50k miles of driving has NEVER given a false FCW (and it has given a few genuine warnings). So MobilEye has something going for them!

 

[Ramphex]

Speaking of FCW. I feel like in the past week or so the false FCWs have gone up for me. I don’t think I drive any different. None of the situations followed up by any intense braking, usually just regen with maybe a slight touch of friction.

 

[EVNow]

FWIW my wife has a 2015 Lexus RX350 with Mobileye (probably version 1) and in 50k miles of driving has NEVER given a false FCW (and it has given a few genuine warnings). So MobilEye has something going for them!

You don’t know how many false negatives it generates. Hopefully you will never find out.

 

[Dewg]

You don’t know how many false negatives it generates. Hopefully you will never find out.

I was about to say the same thing. When people claim they never have phantom breaking with other vehicles, I really hope the system just didn't shutdown completely and they'll run over a pedestrian.

 

[COS Blue]

I was about to say the same thing. When people claim they never have phantom breaking with other vehicles, I really hope the system just didn't shutdown completely and they'll run over a pedestrian.

Really? The only thing keeping us from running over pedestrians is Tesla's auto-pilot? Really?

 

[EVNow]

Really? The only thing keeping us from running over pedestrians is Tesla's auto-pilot? Really?

I don’t think that is what OP meant.