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$12K for FSD is insane
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interesting numbers, though I'm a bit worried about the sample size, plus how was the sample chosen (hopefully no hidden bias issues). I'm not really surprised by the numbers, though its interesting to note that if you map these percentages to total numbers it looks like the pick-up rate is more or less constant (not sure that to make of that, though).
My guess is that as more data became available more people are taking a "wait and see" attitude, especially as the subscription is now also an option.
EVNow
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Can we pls stop pretending this is real data - not just self selected sample with no statistical validity?
Worse presented with no other important variable like ASP.
Sure, just like Tesla's joke safety claims. Tesla/Musk is among the worst offenders in making disingenuous statistical claims. Musk should consider creating a new school of statistics. Frequentists and Bayesians, prepare to be outnumbered, outdebated or at the very least yelled over by the Muskovian Optimists. Yoke mandatory, Terrence Howard approved.
Anyway, it doesn't take a "self-selected sample with no statistical validity" to suggest what seems fairly obvious and most certainly likely given the price/state of FSD (NOT "*StatiStIcalLy vAliD*").
Wow - based on all the negative information, and lies from Tesla, we should all immediately sell our Tesla's and purchase one of the new EVs coming on the market. What a terrible company and product!
dbldwn02
Active Member
Idk...17000 surveyed seems like a decent sample size. Tesla won't share because they know the rate is terrible, consumers have to go by the next best thing.
And this survey was done before the increase to $12K and price increases to the cars themselves. I'm just going to GUESS and say maybe 5-8%.
Taking what used to be Autopilot and calling it FSD is insulting.
Can't wait for my car to get in that sweet Tesla Network and start making me some green!!! FSD Circa 2017.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
You don’t use CNN website poll to figure out who would win an election, right … even if a million participated.
In any case, what exactly is the point ?
What is actually insulting is you can’t even figure out the difference my elementary school age kids can.
Well, I ordered another MY last week, and bought FSD, but kept the Gemini wheels instead of going with the inductions. So, I only paid $10,000 for FSD if you think about it that way 
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Hope you’re keeping the car for 5 years or better against just paying monthly sub..Well, I ordered another MY last week, and bought FSD, but kept the Gemini wheels instead of going with the inductions. So, I only paid $10,000 for FSD if you think about it that way
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Yes - we should all start taking only non-statistically significant, self-selected polls otherwise this rant would have gone underappreciated.
Nate Silver, take note. From now on only use CNN & Fox web polls for all analysis.
No. I keep cars for 24-36 months. Tops. I’ve always liked giving to charity. Why stop now? Sorry if my blatant disrespect for money offended you.
What makes you think that the subscription price will not go up?
Exactly, plus, if there are hardware updates, I’m sure those aren’t covered under the subscription model? I’d assume that would be an out of pocket expense?
dbldwn02
Active Member
They even have a disclaimer now, saying that upgrades aren't included. FSD or not.
In other news/rumors, I guess Tesla started their Tesla Network. Just not in the way we were expecting....
In other news/rumors, I guess Tesla started their Tesla Network. Just not in the way we were expecting....
Tesomega
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dbldwn02
Active Member
It's the only thing out there. Even if it was an approved Gallup Poll, many still would argue that it's not accurate.
Take rate is 3%. Source: My mom
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Because only a putz would pay more than $199 for auto lane changes and iffy at best interchange merging.
dbldwn02
Active Member
Model Y?? Whoa, why you gotta flex on us bro?
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
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