14-50 charging installation

[Meng1978]

Hi my abandoned central AC from the side of my garage is running 240v on 40amp circuit. My electrician just installed a 50 amp receptacle outlet outside by my garage wall. Would it be fine charging with the nema 14-50 on 40 amp circuit ?

 

[andaconda]

Can't wait for the derogatory comments on this one!
jcanoe - time to step in .

 

[jcanoe]

Yes; the NEC allows for installing a NEMA 14-50 receptacle on a 40A circuit (usually in cases where there is insufficient capacity for a 50A circuit.) If the condition of the existing wire is determined by the electrician to be good then the 14-50 receptacle can be used. The receptacle should be labeled 240V/40A so there is no confusion as to the maximum rating of the circuit.

A better option would be to install the Tesla Wall Connector on the side of the garage instead of the 14-50 receptacle. The Wall Connector is designed for use in all weather conditions. Even with a weather housing it is possible for water and moisture to get into the connection between the NEMA 14-50 receptacle and the 14-50 plug.

The Tesla Wall Connector now comes with a 24 ft charging cord so it might be able to reach the Tesla vehicle's charging port without having to back the Tesla vehicle onto the driveway. The Wall Connector can be set to operate on any circuit rated from 15A up to 60A so it could be set to 40A for use on the existing circuit.

For 2021 there is a federal tax credit that you could apply to the purchase and installation electric vehicle charging equipment of 30% of the cost up to a limit of $1000. More here: About Form 8911, Alternative Fuel Vehicle Refueling Property Credit | Internal Revenue Service

 

[andaconda]

I have an 18' cord on my Wall Connector that is mounted at 5' -- I can pull into the driveway, and it reaches without any problem. It doesn't drag on the ground and it seems that the strain relief on the charge end has plenty of support.

And as jcanoe stated "A better option would be to install the Tesla Wall Connector on the side of the garage instead of the 14-50 receptacle. The Wall Connector is designed for use in all weather conditions. "

 

[Puma2020]

You can also set your Tesla (via charging screen) to only pull 32A (80% of 40A) when you charge. That would be more than enough to fully charge your car each night.

 

[brkaus]

You can also set your Tesla (via charging screen) to only pull 32A (80% of 40A) when you charge. That would be more than enough to fully charge your car each night.

As a 40a circuit, this 32a suggestion should be done and verified each time the car is charged.

if it’s a gen2 UMC, that’s the max anyway.

 

[Jenkins8]

Yes; the NEC allows for installing a NEMA 14-50 receptacle on a 40A circuit (usually in cases where there is insufficient capacity for a 50A circuit.) If the condition of the existing wire is determined by the electrician to be good then the 14-50 receptacle can be used. The receptacle should be labeled 240V/40A so there is no confusion as to the maximum rating of the circuit.

A better option would be to install the Tesla Wall Connector on the side of the garage instead of the 14-50 receptacle. The Wall Connector is designed for use in all weather conditions. Even with a weather housing it is possible for water and moisture to get into the connection between the NEMA 14-50 receptacle and the 14-50 plug.

The Tesla Wall Connector now comes with a 24 ft charging cord so it might be able to reach the Tesla vehicle's charging port without having to back the Tesla vehicle onto the driveway. The Wall Connector can be set to operate on any circuit rated from 15A up to 60A so it could be set to 40A for use on the existing circuit.

For 2021 there is a federal tax credit that you could apply to the purchase and installation electric vehicle charging equipment of 30% of the cost up to a limit of $1000. More here: About Form 8911, Alternative Fuel Vehicle Refueling Property Credit | Internal Revenue Service

Hello! Do you know if the tax credit is applicable in 2022 for the purchase and installation of electric vehicle charging equipment? I will be accepting delivery in May 2022 of an M3LR. Thanks.

 

[jcanoe]

Hello! Do you know if the tax credit is applicable in 2022 for the purchase and installation of electric vehicle charging equipment? I will be accepting delivery in May 2022 of an M3LR. Thanks.

Congress did not renew/extend the Alternate Fuel Vehicle Refueling Tax Credit that expired at the end of 2021. Form 8911 should only be used with your 2021 Federal Tax Return for charging equipment installed in 2021 on or before December 31, 2021.

Instructions for Form 8911 (01/2022) | Internal Revenue Service

 

[Jenkins8]

Congress did not renew/extend the Alternate Fuel Vehicle Refueling Tax Credit that expired at the end of 2021. Form 8911 should only be used with your 2021 Federal Tax Return for charging equipment installed in 2021 on or before December 31, 2021.

Instructions for Form 8911 (01/2022) | Internal Revenue Service

Thank you!