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Keep us informed!Thanks! did both. If they want 14 grand I expect a pack at full capacity. Not this bullshit old used worn out pack to "get by". I guess they do this for warranty work and don't realize in the real world of REMANUFACTURED parts it's AS WAS WHEN NEW not old used crap. fully contested charges at my VISA card.
When did you go to Autozone and buy a reman AC compressor to open it up and find a junk yard "working" compressor in the box LOL
What other product is similar to a "remanufactured" battery in that it performs identically to that of its heavily worn, but not quite failed counterpart? The idea of remanufacturing something is that the core of the part is still solid and performs to spec, but other worn out components are replaced. An engine may receive new piston rings, gaskets, a head skim, valve job, lifters, and sometimes other small components to remanufacture it. Some parts, on the other hand, are disposable as they cannot be rebuilt for a reasonable cost or to a reasonable spec. Brake pads, fuel filters, spark plugs, and a lot of electrical components are this way. If Tesla can't replace all the cells or modules to bring the pack to near-new capacity, then they can't actually remanufacture something. They could call it a "repaired" pack like Gruber Motors does. At least that is done for an honest cost, and Gruber is up front about the fact that this is a repair service, not a "remanufacturing" service.
Maybe Tesla's remanufactured packs are like retreaded tires? They technically work, but I don't know if I'd be confident to take a road trip with them.
I don't think this was a reasonable expectation - certainly not one to take on faith when we're talking about $14,000.
Remanufactured means more than repaired, but it _definitely_ does not mean brand new or better than new.Exactly. The OP got a used, repaired battery.
Remanufactured literally means it's manufactured into either something brand new or better than new.
Tesla warranties batteries after they fall below 70% range (they used to say 80% but later "clarified" that they meant 70%), so you're saying if your battery falls to 60% original capacity they have to replace it with a 60% original capacity under warranty?They use a remanufactured battery that has a similar capacity as the one being replaced.
Gruber Motors put out a good video a while back. Seems the extra weight of the 100 kw pack affects the crash worthiness. So between suspension and that, Tesla will not install a 100 kw pack in a non 100 car. That said, I believe Jason Hughs hasThe 100 kWh pack is significantly heavier and could require suspension changes, seat changes, restraint system changes, etc.
None of this is a valid concern. There is zero reason an 85kwh car from 2012 can’t take an 85kwh battery from 2015. A great many of them have.The other likely culprit is that the 2012 batteries were much difference than they were after making a notable chance in battery chemistry some time in 2013. So, there likely isn't a simple option of just replacing your battery with a brand new one. That would then be a retrofit to bring your car superior to what the car's model and specs dictate that it is. Such retrofits are VERY costly and would have required more than just installing a new battery. Tesla likely doesn't even make the 2012 version of the batteries any more.
Remanufactured means more than repaired, but it _definitely_ does not mean brand new or better than new.
EDIT: to be clearer, remanufactured should meet original specifications, but that doesn't mean it's going to perform like new, which is more likely to _exceed_ specifications.
"Within spec" is a phrase Tesla likes to use, but I hope the OP gets a refund and an opportunity to buy a more expensive, newer pack with more range.
OP -
I could be wrong, but almost certain I remember Tesla replacing batteries in older cars with comparable batteries. At $14,000, sounds pretty cheep. Thought I had heard that actual "NEW" batteries were about double that.
Battery pricing is well covered in this thread:
$14k remanufactured
$22k new
Remanufacturing is "the rebuilding of a product to specifications of the original manufactured product using a combination of reused, repaired and new parts". It requires the repair or replacement of worn out or obsolete components and modules. Parts subject to degradation affecting the performance or the expected life of the whole are replaced. Remanufacturing is a form of a product recovery process that differs from other recovery processes in its completeness: a remanufactured machine should match the same customer expectation as new machines.
This isn't remanufactured. It's refurbished at best.
Everyone should read about what remanufactured actually means - Remanufacturing - Wikipedia
Sorry but Tesla cannot redefine what remanufacturing is even if they can redefine what "full self-driving" means.
None of this is a valid concern. There is zero reason an 85kwh car from 2012 can’t take an 85kwh battery from 2015. A great many of them have.kizamybute' said:
The other likely culprit is that the 2012 batteries were much difference than they were after making a notable chance in battery chemistry some time in 2013. So, there likely isn't a simple option of just replacing your battery with a brand new one. That would then be a retrofit to bring your car superior to what the car's model and specs dictate that it is. Such retrofits are VERY costly and would have required more than just installing a new battery. Tesla likely doesn't even make the 2012 version of the batteries any more.