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17.24.30 HW2

Discussion in 'Model X' started by alcibiades, Jun 28, 2017.

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  1. alcibiades

    alcibiades Member

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    Just finished installing on my HW2 X.

    Previously I had the 17.24.28 abomination.

    Fingers-crossed. I mean, it can't be worse. Right?

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    (I believe these are the same release notes from 17.24.28)
     
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  2. Snuffysasa

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    What did I miss? why was 17.24.28 an abomination?
     
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    While some owners report dramatic improvements in .22 and .24, others report it made AP a lot worse and less stable. We're still not sure what leads to these differing observations.
     
  4. Snuffysasa

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    Ah sounds like there was something wrong with it. and then it Seems Tesla stopped rolling it out? but now .30 is going out, and I have seen 2 people post that it fixes things. So thats good.
     
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    The .30 update fixed my "Air Suspension needs service, contact your service center" warning. Did not appear to improve one part of the AP issues. (2017 MX AP2.0)
     
  6. Snuffysasa

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    hmm,
    did not appear to fix what? one part of AP issues? can you elaborate?
     
  7. jlarmstr

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    I find that AP brakes much harder and way too early when approaching stopped (or very slow relatively moving) cars compared to my prior version (17.17.17). My prior FW was much smoother in my opinion and more closely mimicked how I normally brake driving manually. Also, lane changing is sporadic on divided highways. In he cases where it just worked it was way better than my old FW but about 1/3 of the attempts it gets stuck between lanes and loses the lane, jerks over and back. Had similar issues on 17.17.17 but not as frequent. There are points of definite improvements but just as many where it is a step back in my opinion.

    The weird braking is what I noted is no different.

    Also, this is all very subjective what seems weird to me may be ok with you.
     
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  8. Peteybabes

    Peteybabes redneck drivin' a tesla...

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    you are correct, when i was driving both the MS & MX last week with AP2 it grabbed the brakes hard, almost agressively as soon as a car came into it's "view" even if it was 10 car lengths ahead. then it would creep up so slowly that people would jump over in front of me.
     
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    Thank goodness someone else has this too. It was driving me crazy, this is exactly it.
     
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    Interesting thanks for sharing.

    and this is happening on .30 as well?
     
  11. alcibiades

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    Poor acceleration/deceleration, poor lane identification, poor lane-keeping, poor lane-changes. Nearly every AP2 person who received it (and it appears only to have come from SC appointments) found it to be a regression.

    .30 is not much better, unfortunately. On my drives today, it was not as good as 17.17.4 was for me. Long turns are smoother, that is true -- if you're brave enough to have AP on!

    Expected-Autopilot remains at AP1 parody.
     
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  12. Peteybabes

    Peteybabes redneck drivin' a tesla...

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    I can't say, last week the cars i drove were on 17.24.28...
     
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    .30 only fixes the air suspension issue, the rest of the warts with .28 are still present.
     
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  14. jlarmstr

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    I just drove it to lunch. A few miles. Not much different. A post on another forum confirmed my suspicion that .30 was a hot fix for the air suspension false warning issue. Also they confirmed with their service center that the TACC/AP geofencing is broken and could result on the car thinking it is on a different road with different speed limit which will result in random hard braking.
     
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    Hahaha it was your post on the tesla website I was referring to. LOL.
     
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    Yep, told my wife not to use it at all and I am only turning it on in limited circumstances to make observations to feedback to Tesla.
     
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    I just drove 1000km in the last two days and 95% was highway on AP, no issues on the highway, city streets, as above, jerky braking, odd distance being left (if any) from stopped car etc...., worse for city driving than 17.17.17. Only issues with highway driving was the lane changing still has that indecisive jerking at times, but that was always there. Corners are smooth, but still room for improvement.
     
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  18. alcibiades

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    My wife pretty much scowls at me when she hears me turn ExpectedAP™ on.
     
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    Yeah, HW seems to be ok, lane changing is hit or miss for me.... though I feel that it is too sensitive to distance keeping... I am an engineer, so this may sound Greek -- but it is behaving like a bad PID tuning with too much proportional and not enough integrated :)
     
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    Thanks, @alcibiades.

    Good to hear that EAP has finally reached AP1 parody.
     
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