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18650 cells for the truck?

ewoodrick

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Apr 13, 2018
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No, the 18650s are only around to support the legacy vehicles. They'll definitely be using the Model 3 form factor, probably with the newer chemistry.
 

strider

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Oct 20, 2010
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NE Oklahoma
Yeah. I'm going completely off my shoddy memory but I believe they are winding down their 18650 commitment to Panasonic while also saving them form having to redesign the S/X packs.

I expect the truck (and Roadster) to be based on M3 pack architecture.
 

Reeler

Decade of Pure EV Driving
Oct 14, 2015
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961
Denver, CO
New batteries and platform that could support new Roadster or refresh Model S/X. With the Rivian being 4 motors, that platform would support that too. A Roadster with 600 miles on that platform would deliver about 2/3 that for the truck or 400 miles range. While towing, 200 miles range is still workable with the current Supercharger spacing.
 

elmos_world

Member
Jun 26, 2016
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san ramon
isnt the cybertruck using the older ac induction motors from the rear of the model s/x for the rear, and model 3 permanent magnet motor for the front, just like tesla raven powertrain? i dont want them to also be using the older 18650 batteries as well. afaik i think tesla still uses 18650 for currently produced model s and x. maybe they will switch to 2170 with plaid drivetrain
 

Fredneck

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Nov 8, 2019
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Pennsylvania
I can't see them using the 18650 cells in anything going forward. The 2170 cells are only a small improvement over the 18650, but an improvement is an improvement.
 

SSedan

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Jul 24, 2017
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Greenville Wisconsin
I see zero logic in thinking using the same motors means using the same cells.

The 18650 are a legacy part available when the S and X were developed.

The 2170 in the 3 is a Tesla design. Other than legacy contracts and architecture in the S and X there is no reason to use the 18650 for anything.

More likely the S and X will transition away from 18650 than an additional vehicle will use them.
 

SSedan

Active Member
Jul 24, 2017
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Greenville Wisconsin
And they are a little different size so they don't fit in the current S X pack. Once the pack is due for a retool redesign.......
I thought there was a chemistry tweak as well.
 

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