TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC

20 inch wheels and wheel locks

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by PoitNarf, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. PoitNarf

    PoitNarf My dog's breath smells like dog food

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2016
    Messages:
    2,858
    Location:
    NJ
    Two new items showed up in the Tesla online store last night:

    Model 3 20" Sport Wheel and Tire Package

    Model 3 Wheel Lock Set

    The 20” wheels are a bit too pricey for me and probably cause a huge hit on range as well. But I’m sure there are plenty people here that will consider these.

    The wheel locks are interesting. Looks like the will work with the aero wheels and it appears that the lug caps may fit over them as well.
     
    • Informative x 3
  2. Chewy3

    Chewy3 If MacGvyer had a beard

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2016
    Messages:
    354
    Location:
    San Diego
    Interesting. Anyone try aftermarket 20" wheels yet? Curious the comparison without the new fore links
     
    • Like x 1
  3. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2016
    Messages:
    410
    Location:
    Philly
    I'd like to know what leads you to believe that Tesla OEM lug caps would fit over the unique, locked lug. I want this to be true, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
     
  4. Zoomit

    Zoomit Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2015
    Messages:
    2,155
    Location:
    SoCal
    There are a few peculiarities with this 20" Sport wheel package.
    1. It's a square set with 235's on 8.5" wide wheels all around. The 20" wheels on the reveal car has 235s in front and 275s in rear on 10" wide wheels. I expect the Performance version to have wider rear wheels.
    2. The image seems to be a Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tire, not Michelin Pilot Super Sports as per their text.
    3. Why the "optimized rear upper fore links"? The tires are basically the same outer size as the 18" and 19" tires. Same 9.3" tire width. The 20" tires are only 0.1" larger in diameter than 19". Which is nothing. These wheels are undoubtedly heavier so maybe the fore link needed to be reinforced? Seems like a relatively small tire change to mandate a suspense component replacement.
     
    • Like x 3
    • Informative x 1
  5. PoitNarf

    PoitNarf My dog's breath smells like dog food

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2016
    Messages:
    2,858
    Location:
    NJ
    Just because they are a much lower profile locking nut compared to ones I've had on previous cars. I'm going purely by how the nuts appear in the photo on the Tesla website. From what I can see they look to be of similar size and shape as the regular lug nuts so I'm guessing that the lug caps would fit over them.
     
  6. Skione65

    Skione65 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,424
    Location:
    Kentucky
    @Zoomit,

    My question exactly. Why the need for fore links?

    Ski
     
    • Helpful x 1
  7. PoitNarf

    PoitNarf My dog's breath smells like dog food

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2016
    Messages:
    2,858
    Location:
    NJ
  8. Zoomit

    Zoomit Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2015
    Messages:
    2,155
    Location:
    SoCal
    #8 Zoomit, Mar 20, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2018
    So the text says, "to ensure proper wheel fitment and ride quality". I suspect the wheels/tires are much heavier (much higher moment of inertia) so the new links are stiffer and are needed to keep the tires from rubbing the suspension when aggressively cornering.

    I'm looking forward to pictures of the current and "optimized" links.
     
    • Informative x 1
  9. GTKAZ

    GTKAZ Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2017
    Messages:
    108
    Location:
    Seattle / Portland
    So many questions, the links make zero sense to me for such a small difference, and why have the wheel look identical to the 19s?!
     
    • Like x 1
  10. jelloslug

    jelloslug Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2015
    Messages:
    4,628
    Location:
    Greenville, SC
    Maybe Tesla is going to discontinue the 19" wheel in favor of this new 20" version? It's only speculation on my part.
     
    • Like x 1
  11. GTKAZ

    GTKAZ Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2017
    Messages:
    108
    Location:
    Seattle / Portland
    Yeah, I have no clue. Wider rear wheels for the performance version would have made sense, or maybe even wider for all 4 in a 19" size, but this is strange. You might be right.

    Could be that the 20" worked better (efficiency, handling, etc.) and/or the 4S tire was more available/cheaper than 19" from Michelin. The Pilot 4S is an amazing street tire and maybe the square 235s is all that the performance version needs.
     
    • Helpful x 1
  12. bradhs

    bradhs Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    812
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    I hope these become an option when ordering soon.
     
    • Like x 1
  13. timk225

    timk225 Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2016
    Messages:
    2,005
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    20 inch wheels on a 3?

    1. I don't like the look. Too much rim.
    2. Rough ride. And for what? Going around a corner 3mph faster? Whoop-de-do.
    3. Outrageously overpriced from Tesla, as usual.
     
    • Disagree x 3
    • Like x 1
  14. jelloslug

    jelloslug Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2015
    Messages:
    4,628
    Location:
    Greenville, SC
    If it were for a BMW, they would be $4k each.
     
    • Disagree x 2
    • Like x 1
  15. GTKAZ

    GTKAZ Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2017
    Messages:
    108
    Location:
    Seattle / Portland
    You'll be surprised that with the newer tire technology the low profile tires are very comfortable. The Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires on my Arachnids are smoother than the 19" Slipstream stock wheels and tires on my S, and they have far less tire sidewall roll i.e. more responsive steering and less "floaty". The Pilot 4S are supposed to be even better.
     
    • Like x 1
  16. RDaneel

    RDaneel Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2016
    Messages:
    160
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Yessssssss, keep feeding me great feedback on the 4S. I've already decided on these so the positive feedback is delicious!
     
    • Like x 1
    • Funny x 1
  17. GTKAZ

    GTKAZ Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2017
    Messages:
    108
    Location:
    Seattle / Portland
    Absolutely! :) Post pics when you get them
     
  18. arnis

    arnis Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2015
    Messages:
    918
    Location:
    Estonia
    • Disagree x 1
  19. 355rockit

    355rockit Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2016
    Messages:
    259
    Location:
    San Marcos, CA
    Nice they come with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. Awesome tire. I have them on my Jaguar F-Type R. Great performance tire.
     
    • Informative x 1
    • Like x 1
  20. arnis

    arnis Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2015
    Messages:
    918
    Location:
    Estonia

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC