Your app screenshots show one set of wheels but the picture of your car shows a different set of wheels. I guess they were taken at different times?Of course I know that. Why do you bring it up?
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Your app screenshots show one set of wheels but the picture of your car shows a different set of wheels. I guess they were taken at different times?Of course I know that. Why do you bring it up?
Glad you figured out the obvious. I have multiple sets of wheels and tires. I rarely run the 21" Summer tires anymore. I have a winter set on the 19" "Ten Spoke" wheels with Nokian Hakkapelitta tires, and a 19" "Silver Twin Turbine" wheels with Michelin X tired for the rest of the year. My in car graphic matches the set I have mounted. I change my tires and wheels seasonally, not my profile picture in this group. The 21" Silver Cyclone" are only installed for car shows. All the wheel sets we have are OEM and were original options for this car.Your app screenshots show one set of wheels but the picture of your car shows a different set of wheels. I guess they were taken at different times?
Yeah fuel is much more expensive over there hence why EV adoption is higher over there compared to here.$22k every 8 years is not really too bad?
My previous car was a 3.5L V6 Nissan Elgrand. During four years, I drove 130000km and paid about 22000€ for the gasoline alone... More than I paid for the car initially.
I know it's different math for you US folks..
Driving a Tesla, especially an early one, is not about cheap transportation. Our 2012 Signature Edition P85 was $107,000 when it was new. When we purchased it with 19,600 miles on it in Janruary 2016 Certfied Pre-Owned from Trsla it was $60,000. Now, with 122,000 miles on it, it still does 0 to 60 mph in the 4.2 seconds it did when it was brand new. All the features which made it a luxury performance car when it was new still are there or have gotten better. This was the first mass produced electric vehicle which could be driven coast to coast across the United States. Up to this point, excluding tires, our total fuel, maintenance and repair expenses in over 100,000 miles of use was about $2,000. Owning it is like owning the electric equivalent of a 1953 Corvette or a 1955 Thinderbird. I've had the latter. It was a maintenance and repair sinkhole. So if the replacement of the worst battery Tesla ever made (pre-production) cost more than your entire smog producing I.C.E. (Internal Combustion Engine) machine, I don't mind paying that premium to continue enjoying this classic and iconic ride which isn't choking the life out of the planet or supporting the fossil fuel war making industrial complex in the manner every petroleum burning vehicle does. So yes, your math and mine is different. My balance sheet for calculating value is not limited to money. It includes nonmonetary considerations such as environmental impacts, historic importance of this specific vehicle, joy to drive, and living our values. That last part is why we power our home and cars from wind and sun, and store our excess electricity in the largest Powerwall system in Wyoming.$22k every 8 years is not really too bad?
My previous car was a 3.5L V6 Nissan Elgrand. During four years, I drove 130000km and paid about 22000€ for the gasoline alone... More than I paid for the car initially.
I know it's different math for you US folks..
$22k every 8 years is not really too bad?
My previous car was a 3.5L V6 Nissan Elgrand. During four years, I drove 130000km and paid about 22000€ for the gasoline alone... More than I paid for the car initially.
I know it's different math for you US folks..
Up to this point, excluding tires, our total fuel, maintenance and repair expenses in over 100,000 miles of use was about $2,000.
It's not just a Telsa thing, it's the state of battery development. A new battery for the Volt is running 12k, the first units are just reaching 10 years old, and we are seeing failures earlier then that timeframe (I own a Gen2). Financially, the vast majority are better off buying a regular gas car. I love the electric drive, however it's not honest to ignore this fact.Wow $20K... Humm definitely not manageable for some. If it is $20K every 8 years or so and 4 of those years are horrible range reduced supercharging reduced performance, I think I better start saving. A gas car after 8 years of maintenance is not $20K total. Hopefully this is only a tesla thing so I can eventually switch out to something else once the other guys catch up in supercharging capability. Man knowing what I know now, I would've drove my gas car for many more years and switching to another brand EVs.
Financially, the vast majority are better off buying a regular gas car.
$22k every 8 years is not really too bad?
My previous car was a 3.5L V6 Nissan Elgrand. During four years, I drove 130000km and paid about 22000€ for the gasoline alone... More than I paid for the car initially.
I know it's different math for you US folks..
Yes original sunroof. No I don't need to update what I wrote. You just need to take notice of the words I used to qualify my statement "upto this point...".There are a lot of assumptions in that $22k price tag though. That's just for the battery - one major component. There are other high ticket items that will fail over time such as the drive unit ($10k), the sunroof ($2500+), MCU display ($2k?), and at the end of the day you are sitting on 9yr old technology.
$22k is actually quite bad considering for $40-50k you can get a significantly newer Tesla model s, under warranty, with a fraction of the miles, and a heap of new features, functions, etc. So yeah, $22k is pretty horrid when you compare to the actual market.
You should change that $2,000 to $24,000.
You are still on the original sunroof? That's impressive! (or maybe they've updated yours through warranty?)
When your was upgraded did they change any of the cables (wiring)? Also, what is the highest State Of Charge (SOC%) where you can Supercharge at 150 kW? Thank you.I have this battery - I've been able to get it up to 150kw. Also a 2012 Model S. That is pretty amazing for a 2012 Tesla that was sold before superchargers were introduced and that had an initial cap of 90kw charging that subsequently fell to 40-50max
Tesla said: "These changes create a more consistent voltage during acceleration (less voltage drop) and improved and more consistent current flow to the drive unit increasing the performance of the vehicle."
What it kills is the pretentious and overly inflated monetary value fantasies some owners have about their cars. The depreciated value of a car that sold for $107,000 new after 8-1/2 years and has 122,000 miles is not, in most cases going to be much, especially when it started with a $7,500 federal tax credit and possibly a state tax credit.All that is well and good, but bottom line is they need to get these replacement costs down, and fast.
At $22k it's sort of in "shakedown" territory, because you really don't have any option at that point-- a car with a nonfunctional battery has no resale and putting the money in (and gaining warranty) makes it foolish to sell after the replacement. So you don't REALLY have a choice... And the price is high enough that most people are going to resent having been put in that no-win scenario.
They're gonna complain, there will be news stories, and it'll kill what resale value remains (and potentially new sales) when the average consumer begins to wonder if EVs are ticking financial time bombs. If no one ever wants to own out of warranty, that's gonna kill the residuals on leasing too -- I mean, this is something all manufacturers will have to address, but because Tesla selling ONLY EVs and bragging about their battery tech constantly, it puts them at dire risk of getting a really bad reputation if/when more stories about $22,000 repair bills on 8 year old cars-- their flagship, uber-hyped and barely out of warranty cars-- mind you... It undermines everything their marketing has been built on.
There's lots of ways to do the "funny math" to pretend this cost is trivial/expected but the bottom line is it absolutely kills any discussion about gas/maintenance/running expense savings. KILLS it utterly.
Me? I'd do the replacement too. I love my car. But I'm not gonna pretend this isn't what it is: a problem.
I haven't taken it to a track to test acceleration times but the ability to pass seems the same as before. Our 0-60mph was originally represented as 4.2 seconds (Motor Trend got 3.9 with a professional driver on a track and car fully charged). We have experienced longer range now 270 miles versus the 220-230 miles we had before, and markedly faster charging. The performance seems intact. It still passes almost everything other than another (newer- faster) Tesla.