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2013 P85+ with 20k miles or Inventory 70D with 2k miles...?

Discussion in 'Model S' started by osumartz, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. osumartz

    osumartz Member

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    Which would you choose?

    Option 1: Decked out 2013 P85+ with 20k miles from a private owner (not CPO).
    Option 2: "New" Inventory 70D with 2k miles. This option is about $4k cheaper than Option 1.

    Both cars are in excellent condition.

    Go.
     
  2. kuttakamina

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    more text added because tmc requires me to not submit hella short messages.
     
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    Opt 1
     
  5. No2DinosaurFuel

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    Option 2.

    1) New car with full warranty
    2) Tax credit eligible
    3) Lower miles
    4) AWD
    5) Lower cost to replace tires
    6) Probably more comfortable due to 19 inch rims

    I am sure there are other pros for Option 2. Just too lazy to think about it right now.
     
  6. ReddyLeaf

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    Option 2. And the reason used prices have dropped?
     
  7. johnnyS

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    Go for option 1-the P85+ is a great car to drive. They were top of the line until the P85D came out. The P85+ will have better range and be more fun. I was quite impressed with the P85+ loaner I had a week ago.
     
  8. AndyM

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    I'd go with Option 2. The future-tolerant hardware in a later model will mean ability to take advantage of more features later (autopilot, for one), and longer warranty (miles will hit first before time).
    I have a P85, and the number of times I use the "P" part is pretty small.
     
  9. Lloyd

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    Option1, as long as you won't miss the autopilot features.

    Dont let miles scare you with this car. I have 30K on mine and it drives like the day I got it. :wink:
     
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    Option 1 for bigger battery (big deal) and Performance (major fun)
    Option 2 if you really care about autopilot (I don't)
     
  11. osumartz

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    I calculated the 70D price after the $7500 rebate. So bottom line it would be $4k cheaper. I would also have the option to lease the 70D, which would benefit my business write offs. I'm not too worried about the 0-60 as the 70D was plenty fast for me. I just can't decide if the bigger battery along with the options will save me money in the long run. It's already listed at $30k less than sticker, so I'd image it will depreciate slower than a new 70D. Always have to think resale.
     
  12. SamT

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    I'll go for option #3
    3. 85D, $6k more than option #1, you get the same acceleration as the P85+, plus next gen seat, auto pilot, dual motor and handles better on wet road and snow, and 30 plus miles in range more then option #2.
     
  13. BoerumHill

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    37 y.o. Me: #1 all the way, baby. P85+ is a beast, great setup & suspension, better range, pure adrenaline every day.

    53 y.o. Me - go for #2, longer warranty & marginal technology upgrade. Plenty quick & good enough range.
     
  14. Xenoilphobe

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    Option 1. That's what I did.
     
  15. dalamchops

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    #1, by the time AP is fully usable, just trade it up again.

    P85 is definitely way more fun than a 70D
     
  16. sorka

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    Given between the two options you are evaluating and the reasons, I also agree that option 3 would be the best choice.
     
  17. mdemetri

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    I look at it this way - would I trade in my 2013 P85 (without autopilot and 26K miles) for a brand new 70D (0 or 2k miles)? No way, not even for the extra $4000 in cash. I also would not do this for an 80D.

    So my answer would be option 1.
     
  18. S'toon

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    I'd go with the 70D myself.
     
  19. S2X

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    option #1 , this is a model that cannot be purchase brand new anymore only on the used market. 20k miles is not much. also it's nice to have a bigger battery
     
  20. RyanT

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    Humm, I also would not trade my P85 for a 70D. Warranty is 8 years on battery and drive so it still has at least 6 years left. You might not even keep it that long. For the longer range and performance I would go for #1 or as other people mentioned #3. Test drive the P85+ and see if you think it's worth it. You might find some of those options to be pretty nice.

    I have the adaptive cruise control and it's great. I wonder if the auto pilot will be as useful. You can tell the system makes mistakes on the speed limit signs etc.
     

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