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Lets calm down here, tesla only confirmed that it will pause S & X production, perform maintenance on those lines and do some work on the paint shop to prepare for Model 3.

Nowhere that i could find has tesla confirmed that it would start producing model 3 validation vehicles

Lest keep the facts separated from speculation and personal desires

if feb 20th works out Analysts will definitely bring it up in the Earnings Call on the 22nd. + TE price in + firmer M3 dates

if that is true, you're looking at a possibe pop over 300. Thats when we enter the inverted freefall zone.
 
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We bust through 52 week highs like it's butter and all we have is Bgarret eating popcorn trying not to be excited, ev-enthusiast drinking coffee TRYING to get excited but then giving up and switching to decaf...and what about the rest of you? Yeah, Tesla could come out and say the rumors are false, or an earthquake could hit Fremont today, MMD could turn bullish and signal the top or who knows what because anything is possible but this is a pretty good day so far for someone in a Tesla Motors Club.

Tame. All of you. Tame.:p
It's fun to watch the different reactions - like the Story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears....too hot, too cold...just right. Most of us have been on the wrong side of 10+ points move in the pre-market, or on the "right" side of the move, only to see it reverse just as strongly in the other direction. So, I won't take my cues from a nursery rhyme, or spin rhymes in poetry - I will take my cues from baseball and "Fight Club". I mix the superstition of baseball with the first rule of fight club, and I come up with what I saw as I drove around my neighborhood this morning coming back from the gym, an NPR worthy word puzzle:

Left for the gym at about 5:15, hate to get up that early, but I'm trying to _______ back into the jeans I wore easily 2 years ago. Before I parked, I _______ in a call with my sister-in-law in London, the time change finally working in my favor. It's a stretch, but I think we can _____ in a side-trip to Scotland and France while we are over there. My workout over, I had to _______ past the mini-van parked next to my Model S - really, 5am and an empty parking lot and you have to park 6 inches from my door? No door ding, (whew), I headed to the grocery to pick up some Everything bagels for the kids and some fresh- ________ orange juice. When I got in to the house, my wife created me with a smile and, as she _______ my bicep, asked if I had been working out. I think this will be a good day.

There has been much speculation about mythical creatures and situations - Unicorns, Porches and the like, I'm going to fall back on the old standard for pornography from Justice Potter Stewart - "You will know it when you see it." Let's be in the lookout today (for mythical creatures, not pornography) - and be careful out there.
 
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Here is the deal. No one knows. In 2012.. I think I bought into Tsla at 33 bucks or so. I should of just held. .i kept reading this board....but probably listened to the wrong folk or more probably just misinterpreted everything. I sold...and bought...and sold and bought...always regretting the sell and buying for higher . I studied the Vw graph...and always thought prices would go up then down. But it did niot. Just up.. I should of just given luv2b all my money and then I probably woulD be on the same beach s/he is at right now.


So here is what I am going to do. Nothing but hold. Boring. Unsexy. And even if it shoots up and comes down I can live with that. But I cannot afford to chase it again...I still have less shares than I did initially.

When the stock popped from the mid 30's to 57, I sold and was elated. My wife asked me, 'so when are you going to buy again?'. I thought long and hard about it, then panicked. What if it never falls again? So I bought back in at 61. Oh, then bought LEAPs at 90.

Lesson learned.
 
It is time to be happy but don't get euphoric out there.

<realistic bull out>

I will only consider selling some June 240 calls I bought back sub $200.

The Leaps and stock are a position I will hold for now. No addition or subtraction now.

Good luck to all longs, especially ones that have ridden the ups and downs a couple times.....You know who you are ;)
 
Left for the gym at about 5:15, hate to get up that early, but I'm trying to _______ back into the jeans I wore easily 2 years ago. Before I parked, I _______ in a call with my sister-in-law in London, the time change finally working in my favor. It's a stretch, but I think we can _____ in a side-trip to Scotland and France while we are over there. My workout over, I had to _______ past the mini-van parked next to my Model S - really, 5am and an empty parking lot and you have to park 6 inches from my door? No door ding, (whew), I headed to the grocery to pick up some Everything bagels for the kids and some fresh- ________ orange juice. When I got in to the house, my wife created me with a smile and, as she _______ my bicep, asked if I had been working out. I think this will be a good day.
Well played. I'm not yet caffeinated so skimming this it took me until bicep (sadly) to see what you were doing. Nice.
 
Lets calm down here, tesla only confirmed that it will pause S & X production, perform maintenance on those lines and do some work on the paint shop to prepare for Model 3.

Nowhere that i could find has tesla confirmed that it would start producing model 3 validation vehicles

Lets keep the facts separated from speculation and personal desires

Reuters is usually pretty reliable, though. And this is a v specific claim:

"Separately, sources told Reuters that the luxury electric carmaker planned to begin test-building the Model 3 on Feb. 20.
The sources did not know how many of the highly anticipated vehicles Tesla aimed to build in February, but it would likely be a small number to test the assembly system and the quality of vehicle parts."
 
Lets calm down here, tesla only confirmed that it will pause S & X production, perform maintenance on those lines and do some work on the paint shop to prepare for Model 3.

Nowhere that i could find has tesla confirmed that it would start producing model 3 validation vehicles

Lest keep the facts separated from speculation and personal desires
True, lets stick to the facts.

Fact 1: Reuters, a respectable news organization, said the following: "sources told Reuters that the luxury electric carmaker planned to begin test-building the Model 3 on Feb. 20."
Fact 2: Shorts interest is around 35% of the float
Fact 3: Premarket share price is above 52 week highs and 130,000 shares have already traded and it's only just after 8 AM.
Fact 4: Elon Musk thinks TSLA will become a 1 Trillion Mcap company

People should make their own conclusions from these facts. It is probably a great time to sell out of short term options. It's also very risky to add more calls for the short term. The short term is incredibly difficult to predict!! With that said, I would hate for someone who was intending to hold long term to miss out on huge gains because they get scared at this "high price" and lock in small short term gains. do not be euphoric or scared and do something you will regret. Act off your research and facts as you think best. Good luck to everyone.
 
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Well I changed my mind since I don't think I can do without reading the excellent daily analysis of TSLA by Papafox.
I simply decided to ignore those members who irritate me and thankfully the list is not too long (basically all those who disagree with me) jk!
 
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Here is the deal. No one knows. In 2012.. I think I bought into Tsla at 33 bucks or so. I should of just held. .i kept reading this board....but probably listened to the wrong folk or more probably just misinterpreted everything. I sold...and bought...and sold and bought...always regretting the sell...

I learned my TSLA trading strategy way back when I was 6 years old and started playing Monopoly: You never sell, you only buy.

RT
 
So what is the "proper" way for a long to deal with a short squeeze when it happens? Do you just hold on to your shares and let things rip, or should you watch for a peak sell, and then buy back when the price comes back to Earth? (Will there be a high peak and then a return to normal, or is it likely to stay much higher after a short squeeze?)

Tesla's first squeeze (courtesy of Einsv):
Went from low 30s in early 2013 to 190 in Sept., jogged down to 120s in November, then back to 240s in spring 2014. You could have doubled your money in a couple months in early 2013, sold out, and commenced to kicking yourself, repeatedly.

Obviously, past performance does not predict future results, this is not investment advice, make your own investment decisions, etc. etc.

Lets calm down here, tesla only confirmed that it will pause S & X production, perform maintenance on those lines and do some work on the paint shop to prepare for Model 3.

Nowhere that i could find has tesla confirmed that it would start producing model 3 validation vehicles

Lets keep the facts separated from speculation and personal desires
That could be correct.
It is not about actual hard news, I's about sentiment and belief.
Shorts where sure, M3 is not happening at all
It looks like it is. Squeeze me tight!
But at the very least this marks a huge change in sentiment. When Elon announced the accelerated ramp the SP fell by about $25.
 
True, lets stick to the facts.

Fact 1: Reuters, a respectable news organization, said the following: "sources told Reuters that the luxury electric carmaker planned to begin test-building the Model 3 on Feb. 20."
Fact 2: Shorts interest is around 35% of the float
Fact 3: Premarket share price is above 52 week highs and 130,000 shares have already traded and it's only just after 8 AM.
Fact 4: Elon Musk thinks TSLA will become a 1 Trillion Mcap company

People should make their own conclusions from these facts. It is probably a great time to sell out of short term options. It's also very risky to add more calls for the short term. The short term is incredibly difficult to predict!! With that said, I would hate for someone who was intending to hold long term to miss out on huge gains because they get scared at this "high price" and lock in small short term gains. do not be euphoric or scared and do something you will regret. Act off your research and facts as you think best. Good luck to everyone.
Thanks for insightful information
If TSLA becomes a $1 Trillion mkt cap a SP $ 6238
If $700 B then SP of $ 4366
Maybe in 10 years? Or less
 
so... here we are... another $10 for virtually no reason hitting the topside of the channel... or is it the big paint shop news?... or is it donald trump?... or is it shorts?...

nope... it's a bot.

Yea, nothing to see here. Oh, and talk of carbon tax is nothing as well - if it enacted Tesla ZEV credits are toast!

LET
SHORTS
STAY
A
LITTLE
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