I very much doubt the planned obsolescence theory. Elon has been going on and on about the potential for a million mile drivetrain for quite some time now. Deliberately manufacturing a product to fail after 12 years would run counter to that goal. If anything, I'd expect that Tesla would attempt to build the M3 like a tank. They want these to roam autonomously 24 hours a day and have very high driving uptime, so they'll need to be quite sturdy to withstand this unprecedented abuse.
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I agree. However, a planned replacement cycle for some parts is perfectly consistent with a planned long life. There is nothing wrong with periodic replacements if they are handled well. All of us expect to update software and replace tires. In ICE there is so much more. Periodic replacements are wise if lifetime performance and costs benefit by so doing.
Maybe I think in aircraft owner terms. Planned reserves are part of the deal. If Tesla chooses such options they'll need to include these in their program as they already do for brake fluid and coolant.
Just came across this snipppet about the US Treasury issuing a lot of bonds at a fairly high price. Also, this might mean the US Treasury is running low on cash, after using reserves to avoid crossing the debt ceiling, ($20 trillion.)
There is another auction tomorrow that might cause it to exceed $20 trillion. Am I missing something? Shouldn't this be all over the news?
It's also worth noting the interest rate for the 4 week notes is very high, around .8%.
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There is another auction tomorrow that might cause it to exceed $20 trillion. Am I missing something? Shouldn't this be all over the news?
It's also worth noting the interest rate for the 4 week notes is very high, around .8%.
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Tweet Rachel Maddow, is she still hyperventilating over Trumps taxes?
Maybe the $30K car buyer is not an EV buyer. The $30K and 200 mile range golden target is an assumption, not a fact.
Perhaps EV buyers over the next five years will continue to be higher income who perhaps don't have feelings of risk when buying a new type of vehicle. The decline of the middle class perhaps is occurring with the rise of the upper middle class.
DurandalAI
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Thanks for the info, and for not assuming I was trying to be the first three letters of the word assuming.
Dennisj00
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It's a small sample but the ~1000 people I saw in line in the 3+ hours last April to reserve their $35,000+ car were very diverse and not representative of any particular income level.
Same with the cars in the parking lot - a few EVs Leafs and a couple of Model Ss - and then a broad spectrum of ICE - Jeeps to Corvettes and a few beaters.
Once the M3 gets some broad publicity, watch out!
Same with the cars in the parking lot - a few EVs Leafs and a couple of Model Ss - and then a broad spectrum of ICE - Jeeps to Corvettes and a few beaters.
Once the M3 gets some broad publicity, watch out!
Waiting4M3
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Do we think Tesla would order 3000km of cable from a new vendor that they've just identified and have not tried out? From what I read, G&G only said that Tesla approached them, but there is no details about the timeline so they could have approached them a while ago and did evaluation. It's possible that the evaluation just finished during the RC build, Tesla is satisfied that the cable works with their production process, and now pulled the trigger on the volume order.
That is correct for certain. None of us have any idea what will happen with all the new BEV's and PHEV's that are coming during the next three years. All we have are hopes and dreams, and imagine how VW, BD and BMW feel today.
MitchJi
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Kelly Anne lump just can't help it.
trump's taxes are similar to nixon 's watergate tapes. They both have have something to hide.
racer26
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Of interest: Just saw my first Bolt EV in the wild on my way home from work today in Aurora, ON, Canada. It was plugged in to an L2 charger, in the burnt orange color they come in, wearing a plate border from a Brampton, ON dealer.
RobStark
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I highly doubt they plan for cars to junked after 12 years.
Replace battery packs and cables every 12 years is not too far fetched.
Particularly those with substantial miles on the Tesla Network.
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The Clintons have more to hide.
Public service and non-profits all their lives yet they are fantastically wealthy.
Whether their net worth is $50M or $200M it is shady.
RobStark
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LOL.
Their new 7 Series is doing much better than the old 7 Series but probably not as well as they hoped . Gee, I wonder why?
BMW also owns Rolls Royce while VW owns Bentley.
BMW does not need a Maybach.
How would Tesla be impacted if the market lose 30% to 50% in the next 12 months ?
Would it impact heavily Tesla Model 3 production ?
Would it impact heavily Tesla Model 3 production ?
I looked today - but couldn't find anything. Hoping something pops up in the next day or 2
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