sweter
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Anyone has any thoughts on this quote ?
"'Thirty thousand SA households could not get through watching one episode of Australia's Ninja Warrior with this big battery, so let's not pretend it is a solution.'"
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Anyone has any thoughts on this quote ?
"'Thirty thousand SA households could not get through watching one episode of Australia's Ninja Warrior with this big battery, so let's not pretend it is a solution.'"
No, that left me vaguely wondering too. Probably an allusion to some obscure cultural symbol like that Bib Banana, Pink Pineapple or whatever. My take: a limp attempt at insult from a powerless brown-out negative pole.
Drumheller
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I don't have enough information to do the math.
Another part of the interview in the video that made me laugh, she mentioned that people might see a reduction of 50 cents per week on their bill. He responded that it was much more, possibly $116 per year. 116 / 52 = $2.23 per week. Yeah, that's a joke when people are facing electric bills in the $500 to $1000 per month range. And the politician pushing that as a solution is a joke.
Interesting suggestion, however you may overestimate the size of the Western Australian population and the capacity to get 10k (probably) workers at a decent price.
From Wikipedia:
Yuri_G
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Previous versions wouldn't slow down for turns, let alone be able to navigate them with similar success.
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The Big Banana - Picture of The Big Banana, Coffs Harbour - TripAdvisor
Tourist "attraction".. same for Big Pineapple and big Merino. Treasurer who made that statement was referring to the fact that the battery on its own can sustain power for only an hour or so.. while completely ignoring the fact that the primary purpose of the battery is for grid stability.
Note that the government at the national level are big fossil fuel "supporters" with plenty of lobbying going on from coal and gas/fracking lobby.
FredTMC
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What a jerk. This guy MUST know the value this big battery provides.
Here's some:
Sinks energy from the Wind Farm to be used later.
Smoothes out power spikes. Helps prevent blackouts
Makes renewables operate more like "base load" than "peaker" plant
anticitizen13.7
Not posting at TMC after 9/17/2018
My thoughts are that the predator in me smells fear in that Australian politician. It’s nearly Halloween. The Reaper is coming for the kill and the fossil fuel backers are its victims.
anticitizen13.7
Not posting at TMC after 9/17/2018
It would not surprise me if they were totally ignorant of the battery system’s function and benefits.
Just like the soon-to-be victim of a USMC sniper has no idea what is about to hire them.
Tesla Energy simply isn't the Tesla investment story. Elon bought Solar City because he could and eliminated some negative overhang for him. I voted against it, and I was right. Tesla Energy won't ever exceed 10% of the market valuation of this company, because it's dumb in conception. This company is valued by the prospect of higher-than-average margins in automotive with a potential kicker to Transportation as a service. I literally think those of you that drag yourselves inline with TE are Elon zombies. Solar has a future, but residential solar is a bad implementation of it. Battery support is valuable, but it's a commodity business. Most of you don't get this and I understand that.
What you really need to understand, but most of you can't, is that Elon is shooting himself in the foot with his autopilot claims. He has no idea what he's talking about on these issues. The turnover in leadership is strong evidence. There's no reason for Tesla to be making these dumb FSD claims, but they continue on. No one knows how to get to FSD from here.
What you really need to understand, but most of you can't, is that Elon is shooting himself in the foot with his autopilot claims. He has no idea what he's talking about on these issues. The turnover in leadership is strong evidence. There's no reason for Tesla to be making these dumb FSD claims, but they continue on. No one knows how to get to FSD from here.
ValueAnalyst
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Electricity Prices in South Australia Skyrocket
During a power outage last September, electricity prices rose to 200 cents per kilowatt-hour—about 20 times higher than the average U.S. electricity price.
That explains EM's reaction.
During a power outage last September, electricity prices rose to 200 cents per kilowatt-hour—about 20 times higher than the average U.S. electricity price.
That explains EM's reaction.
Australia is irrelevant.
mmd
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The video seems to over dramatize the effect of electricity bill. What's the rate Australians pay for electricity? Wikipedia says 17-26 cents a KWh. That's not too expensive compared to California rates, or rates around the world.
The video also seems biased. IIRC, Elon doesn't have solar panels on any of his ~5 homes in LA either. Solar roof that he installed on one, as we know now, is not functional yet after one year. Yet the host didn't ask that question, or didn't show the answer.
Is this the blackout (Sep 2016) that triggered SA's new energy plan? A storm took out roofs and power lines.
Power 'gradually' returning after SA plunged into darkness
Or is it the other one in Feb 2017, when it was too hot and AEMO shedded 300 MW (intended 100 MW) by mistake for 45 minutes?
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...s/news-story/82f848efbc42455b9d7c4e1487b04fa5
Tesla said, it is half way done by Sep 29th. Strangely, the 100 day countdown started only after some permit to connect to grid was issued. For my solar panels, the connection to grid came last. Tesla won the contract on July 6th.
Tesla has claimed to power > 30000 homes with the battery. As this is tied to wind farm, wonder what happens for the situation of Feb'17 power cut. Wind generation was too low, weather was too hot (A/C running), and there was a bunch of miscommunication among operators and generators. Wind turbines can also snap like twigs in strong hurricanes.
BTW, when will SA report the final cost of these projects? I read an article, claiming Weatherill is not disclosing the price tag of the battery project. Don't know if true.
But the BIGGEST takeaway from this video for me? Australia, the biggest Lithium producer in the world, is still sending it all to China! Not to the "world's largest battery factory" in Nevada, that will very soon "produce as much battery as all other battery factories in the world."
Which miners are supplying all the Li for the GF? Last I heard, Tesla signed some deals with a Wyoming company and a Mexican company. They aren't even producing 2% of what Australia produces.
Tesla Signs Two Lithium Suppliers For Gigafactory
List of countries by lithium production - Wikipedia
And yeah. If the GF has cell production issues, we should be seeing mountains of raw materials piling up outside the GF. How many truck loads of Li and Co were waiting outside GF?
The video also seems biased. IIRC, Elon doesn't have solar panels on any of his ~5 homes in LA either. Solar roof that he installed on one, as we know now, is not functional yet after one year. Yet the host didn't ask that question, or didn't show the answer.
Is this the blackout (Sep 2016) that triggered SA's new energy plan? A storm took out roofs and power lines.
Power 'gradually' returning after SA plunged into darkness
Or is it the other one in Feb 2017, when it was too hot and AEMO shedded 300 MW (intended 100 MW) by mistake for 45 minutes?
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...s/news-story/82f848efbc42455b9d7c4e1487b04fa5
Tesla said, it is half way done by Sep 29th. Strangely, the 100 day countdown started only after some permit to connect to grid was issued. For my solar panels, the connection to grid came last. Tesla won the contract on July 6th.
Tesla has claimed to power > 30000 homes with the battery. As this is tied to wind farm, wonder what happens for the situation of Feb'17 power cut. Wind generation was too low, weather was too hot (A/C running), and there was a bunch of miscommunication among operators and generators. Wind turbines can also snap like twigs in strong hurricanes.
BTW, when will SA report the final cost of these projects? I read an article, claiming Weatherill is not disclosing the price tag of the battery project. Don't know if true.
But the BIGGEST takeaway from this video for me? Australia, the biggest Lithium producer in the world, is still sending it all to China! Not to the "world's largest battery factory" in Nevada, that will very soon "produce as much battery as all other battery factories in the world."
Which miners are supplying all the Li for the GF? Last I heard, Tesla signed some deals with a Wyoming company and a Mexican company. They aren't even producing 2% of what Australia produces.
Tesla Signs Two Lithium Suppliers For Gigafactory
List of countries by lithium production - Wikipedia
And yeah. If the GF has cell production issues, we should be seeing mountains of raw materials piling up outside the GF. How many truck loads of Li and Co were waiting outside GF?
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Puerto Rico Governor Cancels $300 Million Power Contract
Governor invokes cancellation clause for disaster recovery deal after FEMA flags ‘significant concerns’
Source: Wall Street Journal
Governor invokes cancellation clause for disaster recovery deal after FEMA flags ‘significant concerns’
Source: Wall Street Journal
Buddyroe
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Just something that came to mind and made sense. Not many Tesla employees in South Georgia.
TrendTrader007
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the steadily up trending 200 day SMA will ultimately prove to be the saving grace. shorts will try their best tomorrow to drop SP below it and if they do succeed it should be a relatively short lived affair, enough to shake out weak longs and then SP likely to rebound nicely
larmor
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Could you elaborate on your thoughts for tesla energy? as the market currently gives little value to this based on past performance of solar and unclear information on stationary storage...
This is pure speculation, but they might purposely have made it incapable of following sharp turns to avoid it trying to veer of of a highway onto an exit. That road looked extremely curvy, and not really the type of use that autopilot is currently intended for. I would like to see that section of road in the video on a map to get a better sense of just how out of the ordinary that road is?
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