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Kmartyn

Member
Mar 7, 2019
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485
Toronto
Correct. Blending is tough to get right. Nissan never got it right in the 2011 LEAF, grabby brakes at low speeds.

I don’t find it grabby at all in our 2018 Leaf. So perhaps they have improved it. Of course bigger battery now, may have more capacity for regeneration.
 

TheTonester

Member
Sep 12, 2019
198
87
Delaware
Yes 5% is the expected amount of improvement.

Okay, but this isn't reflected in the 0-60 times shown on the order page. But I understand neither cars nor physics well enough to know exactly how that would work. I do know that mathematically if you improve a 4.4 second 0-60 time by 5% you get approximately 4.2 seconds.
 

MorrisonHiker

S 100D 2021.4.18.2
Mar 8, 2015
9,666
8,923
Colorado
Same here with squeals from my brakes. Let's hope that now low speed braking is automated that Tesla can (or have) built in periodic brake caliper activation during braking to reduce the prevalence of customer complaints about squealing brakes.
Low speed automated braking has been around as long as Autopilot. Actually it's been out since TACC was released.
 

NOLA_Mike

Grouchy
May 11, 2013
2,260
3,808
Hammond, LA
I wonder how much this will reduce brake use and potentially increasing the possibility of seized calipers due to lack of use? I already have squeaky brakes on my 3 from what I assume is a lack of regular exercising of the brakes. Would be nice if Tesla had some sort of reminder or automatic program that puts the car in a “brake maintenance” mode allowing the rotors to be cleaned off. I understand other EVs with one pedal driving offer that option.

I manually perform this function occasionally by shifting to Neutral at about 25 MPH and then braking fairly firmly a couple of times. Usually right after I wash it because the rotors get some surface rust if left wet.

Mike
 

MorrisonHiker

S 100D 2021.4.18.2
Mar 8, 2015
9,666
8,923
Colorado
Has anybody from somewhere else other than the center of the Tesla universe seen a different time displayed in that message than "6AM"?

Peak rates don't begin at 6AM in most places. Here they begin at 7AM and don't apply on weekends or on (proper) weekday holidays.
We should have the answer later today as one of our cars received the update but we have to fly to pick it up. If it is fixed at 6 am, that's a pretty poor development decision.

I mentioned before that I don't like the weekdays checkbox either. Not everyone works Monday to Friday or would want preconditioning every day...or would want preconditioning at all! They should just list the days of the week and allow the user to select which days, if any, the want preconditioning to be enabled.
 

tomas

Out of warranty...
Oct 22, 2012
4,267
3,858
Chicago/Montecito
Has anybody from somewhere else other than the center of the Tesla universe seen a different time displayed in that message than "6AM"?

Peak rates don't begin at 6AM in most places. Here they begin at 7AM and don't apply on weekends or on (proper) weekday holidays.
I suspect they researched and found 6 was safe everywhere.
 

noicepls

Closed
Apr 20, 2018
324
241
Lambton County ON.
Has anybody from somewhere else other than the center of the Tesla universe seen a different time displayed in that message than "6AM"?
Peak rates don't begin at 6AM in most places. Here they begin at 7AM and don't apply on weekends or on (proper) weekday holidays.

Yes, our peak rates here in Ontario, Canada also begin after 7 am, and never on weekends and official provincial holidays, so 6 am would not be good enough.
 

RayCanuck

Member
May 29, 2019
87
51
Penticton
Same here with squeals from my brakes. Let's hope that now low speed braking is automated that Tesla can (or have) built in periodic brake caliper activation during braking to reduce the prevalence of customer complaints about squealing brakes.

I've mentioned this all three times I've had my car serviced. I won't stop mentioning it until they find a fix. My LEAF doesn't squeal so Tesla's excuse that regen braking promotes surface disc corrosion doesn't cut it with me.

if you think your squeaky brakes are from lack of use, use them once in a while....
but truth is squeaky brakes can have a multitude of causes and have experienced squeaky brakes on almost every vehicle I've ever owned at one point or another.
 

brkaus

Well-Known Member
Jul 8, 2014
7,741
6,273
Austin, TX
But it defeats one of the main points of scheduling a charge to finish right before you need the car. With a fixed time, the battery will cool down before many drive in the morning, leading to reduced regen.
Yup. Safe is better than nothing, but it could be better.

I'm also curious about shared HPWC. What happens is you have two HPWC - 40a max charging between the two... Certainly a corner case, but would be good to know.
 

MorrisonHiker

S 100D 2021.4.18.2
Mar 8, 2015
9,666
8,923
Colorado
Yup. Safe is better than nothing, but it could be better.

I'm also curious about shared HPWC. What happens is you have two HPWC - 40a max charging between the two... Certainly a corner case, but would be good to know.
Good point. Well have to test that once we get the update on multiple vehicles. However, due to the limitations on the new scheduled charging features, I doubt we'll ever use it.
 

tomas

Out of warranty...
Oct 22, 2012
4,267
3,858
Chicago/Montecito
But it defeats one of the main points of scheduling a charge to finish right before you need the car. With a fixed time, the battery will cool down before many drive in the morning, leading to reduced regen.
Let’s not get too excited unless we get actual information that it is locked at 6 vs variable. There’s enough Tesla vitriol on this forum without needing new vitriol based on hypothetical :) Sorry I aggravated it!
 

jkoya

NA2 NSX
Nov 21, 2018
3,626
1,555
Northern CA
Okay, but this isn't reflected in the 0-60 times shown on the order page. But I understand neither cars nor physics well enough to know exactly how that would work. I do know that mathematically if you improve a 4.4 second 0-60 time by 5% you get approximately 4.2 seconds.

I noticed on the order page the Long Range Dual Motor All Wheel Drive now shows a range of 322 miles, while the Model 3 Performance is still at 310 miles. In the past, weren't they both listed as a 310 mile range ? Is this because of the Aero Wheels or did something else change in the new update ?
 

thodgdon66

Member
Aug 14, 2019
110
93
AZ
Okay, but this isn't reflected in the 0-60 times shown on the order page. But I understand neither cars nor physics well enough to know exactly how that would work. I do know that mathematically if you improve a 4.4 second 0-60 time by 5% you get approximately 4.2 seconds.

I’m nearly 100% sure it’s not a linear relationship. Say it takes 300HP to go 4.4 sec. Isn’t he power requirement curve an exponential one, i.e., it will take much more power to to faster because drag increases exponentially as speed increases?

Not a physicist so someone who is should chime in.
 

towndrunk

Member
Jun 2, 2018
290
205
Fargo, ND
if you think your squeaky brakes are from lack of use, use them once in a while....
but truth is squeaky brakes can have a multitude of causes and have experienced squeaky brakes on almost every vehicle I've ever owned at one point or another.

Broken clips can make the rear brakes squeak. I just had mine fixed.
 
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