If you look at some of the original NoA videos from the early release, there are some showing the no confirmation functions.
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2019.8.3 First release of traffic light detection?
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If you look at some of the original NoA videos from the early release, there are some showing the no confirmation functions.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Yeah, I forgot about those videos. I was thinking of more recent videos using the current version of NOA.
Perhaps. I’m pretty confident I haven’t discussed any details of what is in the update on here so I think I’m ok. (I certainly haven’t posted any videos online)
It's not the accountant that is key its whether the auditors agree. We'll find out when Q1 financials come out. My bet is no.
I am hopeful but today, March 24, my car never warned me when I was going to run a red light on Autopilot. Drove over 50 miles in daylight, dusk and dark. Too soon to speculate why this new feature did not work for me.
The only videos I have are of the M3 acting as before, oblivious to stop lights. Too mundane to upload. Still impressive if you have never seen a Tesla on Autosteer!
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So you went around running red lights all day to test it? It is probably like the blind spot chime that doesn't chime until you have crossed the line and are about to hit the other car.
I did not run any red lights but I definitely had my front end exposed a few times. I would brake just short of entering the intersection. I will leave the running through a red light testing to someone who lives in a more desolate area.
I assumed Autopilot would warn me BEFORE I entered the intersection. That is how I read the release notes.
This is an important question; if you are slowing -- maybe even just using regen and not even the brakes -- then the software probably assumes you know about the red light already and it does not need to warn you.
That said, I can also believe that it is still extremely unreliable. Initially at least they will probably err on the side of false negatives rather than false positives, because those false positives are going to be super annoying when they start happening.
In fact, not only can I beleive it, but anybody who's read much of what I've written on these fora can probably guess that I'm quite certain that it's extremely unreliable.
The release notes also state you be warned "only" in some cases. We'll have to wait until a brave soul runs some red lights in a "safe" intersection where you can be sure there are no police or other cars
Nice try, but definitely not a base level safety feature. Already listed as a FSD feature.
A real safety feature would be the car analyzing your driving and disabling the steering wheel if you are a danger to other road users. I can just imagine the complaints about that
This is a _warning_. FSD would _respond_ to the traffic light.
I can believe this would become a feature on all cars.
C.f. Lane departure warning v autosteer.
And Autosteer was active up until you stopped? (Which is currently a requirement for the warning.)
That would mean that you weren't slowing as you approached unless you were lowering the TACC set point.
The speed did not matter nor did any other variable. I tried it slow (18mph) all the way up to 45mph. I did extensive tests at several intersection that I have routinely driven through on AP over the last 6 months.
Again I can not speculate and am hopeful it will work soon. I love AP and I use it whenever possible. It is so awesome in bumper to bumper traffic and spectacular on freeways. But I pay attention while driving on AP so I can take over when needed. After all 'driving on AP' is still 'driving'.
Honestly this 'warning' feature will only be useful when it also detects stop signs and all the other traffic signs. And 'warning' features are infinitely better when they react automatically.
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lairdb
Member
It's worth noting that there's conflicting langauge in all of the manual versions from the beginning through now. One part, prominently marked "WARNING", says "Autosteer is intended for use only on highways and limited-access roads with a fully attentive driver."
FWIW, if you want to be picky, every public road in the U.S. is a "highway". (So are canals, incidentally.)
The later section, not IMO as prominently marked, reads as @TT97 quoted.
Neither wording has changed from the earliest manual through the latest.
OK - got 8.3
The real way to test red light detection is to have someone stand on the side of the road and as you approach - point a red flashlight at you.
As far as the new summons feature.....
I pressed all over my key card and my car just refuses to come to me - sigh !!!
The real way to test red light detection is to have someone stand on the side of the road and as you approach - point a red flashlight at you.
As far as the new summons feature.....
I pressed all over my key card and my car just refuses to come to me - sigh !!!
On my X, I need to disable “Hold to summon” in order to use the key fob for summon, is there such a setting on the summon tab on the 3?
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
If stoplight detection is fooled by a red flashlight then Tesla is even farther away from FSD than I thought. haha.
aSlowOldGUy
Member
I think you need to hold the card upside down, aligned with true north and tap the T, S, and A letters at the same time - that should start the summon.
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