Feel better? In your rant you missed sales associates, you know the people directly selling you the vehicle. As to your last sentence, I am just wondering, what kind of cost accounting and corporate budgeting experience do you have? Also, that isn't logical - if I am stating that future OTAs are baked into the sales price, the car isn't overpriced for what I get...assuming that OTAs do come, that is.
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2020.12.5
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Feel better? In your rant you missed sales associates, you know the people directly selling you the vehicle. As to your last sentence, I am just wondering, what kind of cost accounting and corporate budgeting experience do you have? Also, that isn't logical - if I am stating that future OTAs are baked into the sales price, the car isn't overpriced for what I get...assuming that OTAs do come, that is.
Yea, the word premium has multiple meanings. I am not saying that I paid a sum of money that puts the car in some kind of premium class. Part of what I paid for is future OTAs, this is the amount in excess of the car's value at the time of purchase. Do you not think you have paid for these OTAs? The costs to develop the OTAs is just a loss leader for future sales?
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dandrewk
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LOL, you called my post a "rant"? All I did was point out your hypocrisy. The rest of your post is so obscure... is there a question anywhere there? Do you work for the White House?
If you received even one OTA update, you "got what you paid for" as far as the advertising goes, but this discussion is WAAAY off topic of this thread, and I am going to take my own advice here.
sduck
Mr. Duck
There are a large number of relatively inexpensive third party dashcams that you can get that do this. I have a blackvue 750 (that I installed back before the built in version was even a rumor), and it does this, and have a better field of view front and back, and better resolution. Not to mention wifi and cloud features that actually work. While it's nice to see the evolution of the tesla dashcam, it has always been like they didn't do any actual research into what's available and what people want. You can get a properly evolved product now, and can stop worrying about the teslacam.
dandrewk
Active Member
Agreed and will do likewise. However, this happens in firmware update threads all the time. There is always someone with an inflated sense of entitlement blasting Tesla for their free upgrades.
Where’s 2020.12.5? (see my post in this linked thread for an outline of how all these threads tend to go, I am sure you will agree)
As a software dev, indeed. It's the rule of all dev: For every feature you add, there will be generated requests/"need" for 5-10 new related features, and potentially a few bugs related to it.
Example that happens all the time:
Say I allocate 5 days to implement feature A. After 3 days I realize the feature is good, tests are good etc... So I spend the last 2 days improving it, implement a few additional related features B, C and after 5 days I'm really happy with the results.
Then at the feature demo there's always the:
1. You added feature A and B, why not C too?
2. D would be really cool.
3. B should have E and F to be useful.
4. It's useless without feature G
etc...
Every feature is progress, and having a dashcam viewer is better than not. Even if you can't delete multiple files simultaneously yet. I'm sure they'll add it later if they get spare time
On our GIT I think the average time for implementating a feature/fix something, fully validated and deployed is around 4 hours. People often ask, if X takes just a few hours, why not just do it? Reason is our GIT has ~2000 issues/requests.
I'm sure Tesla has it the same way, it may take just 2 hours to fix bug X, but ... Y x 100 is more important.
hey.stephen
Member
Ditto...I will second that, I am also on HW3...no complaints here
pdx_m3s
Active Member
Regarding cones, both HW2.5 and HW3 see/perceive the same things (cones, lights, stop signs, etc.). They are running the same code regardless of HW version (2.5 or 3), AP version (basic, EAP, FSD, or SR/nothing), or whether AP/NOA is engaged or not. They are "always on" perceiving the environment. Tesla just determines via software which items are rendered in the UI.
M109Rider
Active Member
Or they know exactly what people want, but can’t always deliver these results quickly or easily for a host of reasons.
I’m pretty sure a company as advanced as Tesla also likely knows what’s available in the highly Technical world of dash cams. Not having the tech perfect right away doesn’t mean they don’t know how, or they don’t understand the market.
Why did it take Blackvue so so long to get where they are now. All they do is dash cams. Why did their programmers not deliver the best resolution initially, with all the integration initially, that they have now? (That was rhetorical)
I would suggest you may be over simplifying the differences between a company that just makes a dashcam, to a state of the art car, and it’s integration.
I was so excited to see my car which was on 12.0 got an update, but WTF I only got the 12.1 update and not the 12.5 update. I am so stinking mad. Will I ever get the 12.5 update for my 2019 model 3 with FSD?
pdx_m3s
Active Member
Jeezus. Settle down. Your car will get the update. These updates don't hit the fleet all at once.
Yes, at some point, you will get either this update, or one later that bundles in the features of this update.
Mrcarcrazy
In need of a shrinking gun to zap a plaid with.
No warning messages, tried reboot, no worky. I’ve driven the car almost 14k miles, likey 13500 of those I’ve been on autopilot. I only say this to say “I’m not a completely ignorant moron” in a polite method. Maybe “this ain’t my first rodeo”.
I assert it had everything to do with it. After the maps updated, cruise control and autopilot worked again.correlation vs causation. Good luck convincing me I’m wrong.
EVinAZ
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Did anyone with MCU1 get the new Dashcam Viewer function?
My 2020.12.5 install completed, and it has the new dropdown list when you touch the DashCam icon, but that list only shows the "Save Footage" selection, not the "Launch Viewer" selection.
Also, my Release Notes don't mention the new Dashcam Viewer.
Thanks.
My 2020.12.5 install completed, and it has the new dropdown list when you touch the DashCam icon, but that list only shows the "Save Footage" selection, not the "Launch Viewer" selection.
Also, my Release Notes don't mention the new Dashcam Viewer.
Thanks.
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sduck
Mr. Duck
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