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2020 Shipping Movements

nandol97

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Jun 18, 2020
54
4
East Mids
I have been told I can expect mine early September but I still have no VIN. Have you received yours yet?
No vin yet either, what spec have you on order?
Mine:
Model X Performance
Ludicrous Mode
Pearl White Multi-Coat
22" Onyx Black Wheels
All Black Premium Interior with Carbon Fiber Décor
Six Seat Interior
Autopilot
Full Self-Driving Capability
Free Unlimited Supercharging

was expected for March delivery originally, in April was told a June delivery date, in June I was told to expect a vin number on July 15th, on July 15th was told to expect delivery in mid September. (I’m not hopeful that my car will be with me in September) No vin yet either
 

Gareth'sMX

Member
Jul 17, 2020
21
6
Cheshire, UK
No vin yet either, what spec have you on order?
Mine:
Model X Performance
Ludicrous Mode
Pearl White Multi-Coat
22" Onyx Black Wheels
All Black Premium Interior with Carbon Fiber Décor
Six Seat Interior
Autopilot
Full Self-Driving Capability
Free Unlimited Supercharging

was expected for March delivery originally, in April was told a June delivery date, in June I was told to expect a vin number on July 15th, on July 15th was told to expect delivery in mid September. (I’m not hopeful that my car will be with me in September) No vin yet either

Ordered 3rd February:
  • Model X Performance
  • Ludicrous Mode
  • Midnight Silver Metallic
  • 22" Onyx Black Wheels
  • All Black Premium Interior with Carbon Fiber Décor
  • Five Seat Interior
  • Autopilot
  • Free Unlimited Supercharging
 
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FlyingTimbo

Member
Jul 25, 2020
39
33
Yorkshire, UK
Thanks again for the shipping info, it's much appreciated.

It's interesting considering 3 ships with approx 5,500 cars destined for Europe. That's a hell of a lot of cars and quite a lot of money as cargo.
 

-monky-

Member
Aug 3, 2020
60
49
UK
If your delivery date is mid - late August its probably on Glovis Sun... if it's early September it's probably on the Grand Dahlia.

I think September deliveries are more likely on the GLOVIS CAPTAIN. If the GRAND DAHLIA arrives at Zeebrugge on 13 Aug, it will be in Southampton a couple of days later. Give Tesla a couple of weeks to get the cars delivered takes us to the end of August. Any thoughts @Mr Miserable?

GLOVIS CAPTAIN left Pier 80 on Friday. I got first contact about being matched a couple of days later. Today I got delivery date of 4th September, which is 2 weeks after @Mr Miserable's prediction of its arrival in Zeebrugge on 21 Aug. I strongly suspect these things are linked.

Or am I wrong?!
 

Mr Miserable

Supporting Member
Jul 8, 2019
4,097
7,584
UK
The San Francisco Chronicle have published GLOVIS SPLENDOR's destination as 'Port Unknown' which is not particularly helpful.
We shall have to wait until she updates her AIS destination tomorrow morning (around middday UK time) to find out where she is off to.
 

Vedaprime

Member
Feb 15, 2019
893
1,593
Brisbane
For those following Hong Kong movements, I did detect about 50 Teslas and their vins on container ship One Ibis, recently arrived in Hong Kong a couple of days ago. This is in addition to the 2 large RoRo shipments on Glovis Sonic and Glovis Dolphin
 

M3PScot

Member
Jul 14, 2020
29
49
UK
About 23 crew.

Do you know, to what extent are these crew members involved in the offloading the cargo? So when they dock in Zeebrugge, do these guys get a few hours shore leave, or are they all working hard to offload the cars? I'm guessing at least some of them must be involved, but I'd like to think some of them get to have a beer or... whatever after weeks at sea :)
 

M3PScot

Member
Jul 14, 2020
29
49
UK
Also, just for info, any guess at how much the charter cost for a ship like the GS is? That's only part of the total delivery cost to Europe for sure, but if I made a guess like maybe $1000 per car for just the sea transit from San Francisco to Zeebrugge would that be anything close? I would think that's maybe light but then I'd be surprised probably if it was $2000 (sorry, I'm just a curious person :) ) I don't know anything about what port loading/unloading costs might be plus demurrage risk, also what incoterms this sort of delivery might be under (CIF?).
 
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Mr Miserable

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Jul 8, 2019
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Do you know, to what extent are these crew members involved in the offloading the cargo? So when they dock in Zeebrugge, do these guys get a few hours shore leave, or are they all working hard to offload the cars? I'm guessing at least some of them must be involved, but I'd like to think some of them get to have a beer or... whatever after weeks at sea :)

The unloading/loading is done by local stevedores - union rules, the world over.
There is plenty to be done by the crew to facilitate the process though.
The ship will be in port the minimum time possible - it costs money.
Whilst in port the ship will need victualling (food and supplies will have been ordered in advance)
The ship may need bunkering (refuelling although these ships can go for months without refuelling, so tend only to refuel if necessary or it is cheap).
The ship will need to be kept in trim during the loading/unloading - generally done by pumping water from various ballast tanks.
This may be the only opportunity for the engineers to do some routine maintenance on the engines or other key systems.
The bridge will continue to be manned. The watch system continues.
No, port time is busy, busy, busy.
It's not like the Navy!
 

Mr Miserable

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Jul 8, 2019
4,097
7,584
UK
Also, just for info, any guess at how much the charter cost for a ship like the GS is? That's only part of the total delivery cost to Europe for sure, but if I made a guess like maybe $1000 per car for just the sea transit from San Francisco to Zeebrugge would that be anything close? I would think that's maybe light but then I'd be surprised probably if it was $2000 (sorry, I'm just a curious person :) ) I don't know anything about what port loading/unloading costs might be plus demurrage risk, also what incoterms this sort of delivery might be under (CIF?).
Probably the most closely guarded secret is how much is paid. Your guess is as good as anybody's, quite frankly.
The costs incurred are considerable.
There have been numerous investigations in to price rigging by the big players. So much so that some car manufacturers have got into the shipping business themselves out of necessity.
 
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