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2020 Shipping Movements
- Thread starter Mr Miserable
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There was a report that the Shanghai plant will work through the Chinese national holiday after shutting down the last ten days in September. I can't say I know that's true.
I have received a tip that a 'big one' will be turning up at Pier 80 later this month.
Now I can't identify the ship from that description however I suspect we may be looking at a vessel that is either wider than 32.3m or longer than 200m, or even both.
That doesn't narrow it down much.
'Big ones' in the past have included DONG A GLAUCOS which at 232m long is big and BROOKLANDS which at 38m wide is also big.
The thing is that this source has a surprisingly good batting average - he just "doesn't know anything about boats"
GLOVIS SAFETY is Dong size.
Anyway I have asked our ace reporter to see if he can get a name.....
EDIT: Another ship (which for some reason or other I had discounted earlier) which could fit the bill is GLOVIS SPRING.
Now I can't identify the ship from that description however I suspect we may be looking at a vessel that is either wider than 32.3m or longer than 200m, or even both.
That doesn't narrow it down much.
'Big ones' in the past have included DONG A GLAUCOS which at 232m long is big and BROOKLANDS which at 38m wide is also big.
The thing is that this source has a surprisingly good batting average - he just "doesn't know anything about boats"
GLOVIS SAFETY is Dong size.
Anyway I have asked our ace reporter to see if he can get a name.....
EDIT: Another ship (which for some reason or other I had discounted earlier) which could fit the bill is GLOVIS SPRING.
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So we could see the big Dong exit the canal via Colon in Q4?I have received a tip that a 'big one' will be turning up at Pier 80 later this month.
Now I can't identify the ship from that description however I suspect we may be looking at a vessel that is either wider than 32.3m or longer than 200m, or even both.
That doesn't narrow it down much.
'Big ones' in the past have included DONG A GLAUCOS which at 232m long is big and BROOKLANDS which at 38m wide is also big.
The thing is that this source has a surprisingly good batting average - he just "doesn't know anything about boats"
GLOVIS SAFETY is Dong size.
Anyway I have asked our ace reporter to see if he can get a name.....
EDIT: Another ship (which for some reason or other I had discounted earlier) which could fit the bill is GLOVIS SPRING.
(sorry)
posted by member @tinyrodent on October 3, 2020
Just a quick update on the 'big one' coming to Pier 80.
My source has now named this ship DONINGTON.
That is totally credible since she is nearby heading for Portland at the moment. She is big at 38m wide.
Significantly I'm led to believe that she will arrive at Pier 80 as early as next week and certainly before RCC ANTWERP.
The 1st ship of Q4, VIKING DESTINY, is presently enroute to Benicia (other side of the SF Bay) and will arrive there around midnight local tonight. She is due to load at Pier 80 on Friday morning. Her destination remains undetermined at present and I'm not finding anything to support the idea of her coming to Europe. (Likewise for DONINGTON at the moment)
I'm still keeping an eye on Shanghai but there is no sign of any EU bound Tesla ships at the moment.
My source has now named this ship DONINGTON.
That is totally credible since she is nearby heading for Portland at the moment. She is big at 38m wide.
Significantly I'm led to believe that she will arrive at Pier 80 as early as next week and certainly before RCC ANTWERP.
The 1st ship of Q4, VIKING DESTINY, is presently enroute to Benicia (other side of the SF Bay) and will arrive there around midnight local tonight. She is due to load at Pier 80 on Friday morning. Her destination remains undetermined at present and I'm not finding anything to support the idea of her coming to Europe. (Likewise for DONINGTON at the moment)
I'm still keeping an eye on Shanghai but there is no sign of any EU bound Tesla ships at the moment.
howardoark
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Feel like I've been lurking a long time with nothing to contribute. So firstly, thanks massively Mr Miserable and others for such insight into shipping and delivery movements. Amazing learning material
I noticed on the satellite image for 07-Oct the pier 80, having some blurry white adding in.. is this what we expect to see when they're queueing up cars for loading? This seems to fit with the first load of the quarter being Friday morning?
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I noticed on the satellite image for 07-Oct the pier 80, having some blurry white adding in.. is this what we expect to see when they're queueing up cars for loading? This seems to fit with the first load of the quarter being Friday morning?
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Runescom
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Is it possible that the VIKING DESTINY coming to Europe or will it be the Rcc Antwerp? What is possible first Q4 boat at Zeebrugge?
In the past the dates on these satellite photos has come under doubt and this one is a bit suspect too. I don't believe this was taken today.
The potential load looks a little too small for an EU shipment however I have received a report of many transporters with EU Model 3's being moved to Pier 80.
To be honest I'm a little surprised that we haven't had positive indications of an EU shipment already, especially as we should be seeing a record Q4. I still have no positive indications that VIKING DESTINY is heading to Europe, nor for DONINGTON.
It would appear that business is declining for car carriers at the moment and some ships are possibly going to be laid up.
For long distances like Shanghai to Europe, ocean freight is the least expensive mode. And Russia doesn't use standard gauge for track. And trains might not be able to pass though Russia without bribery or theft.
BMW use the route for exports to China and there is no 'shrinkage".
Latest news from Pier 80.
VIKING DESTINY will arrive alongside Pier 80 later this evening (local time) but will depart Friday evening.
This short 24hr visit can be regarded as confirmation that she is certainly not EU bound and is most likely to be heading to Shanghai. (or maybe even Canada!).
The next ship expected to arrive at Pier 80 next Tuesday night will be DONINGTON.
Meanwhile across the Pacific, I am also keeping an eye on GLOVIS SIRIUS which has arrived alongside in Shanghai.
VIKING DESTINY will arrive alongside Pier 80 later this evening (local time) but will depart Friday evening.
This short 24hr visit can be regarded as confirmation that she is certainly not EU bound and is most likely to be heading to Shanghai. (or maybe even Canada!).
The next ship expected to arrive at Pier 80 next Tuesday night will be DONINGTON.
Meanwhile across the Pacific, I am also keeping an eye on GLOVIS SIRIUS which has arrived alongside in Shanghai.
As forecast, the VIKING DESTINY is now alongside Pier 80 - the 1st ship of Q4.
She is due to depart around 8pm tonight however her destination still remains to be determined, although it's almost certain not to be Zeebrugge and more likely to be Shanghai. The ever-helpful San Francisco Gazette reports her destination as 'unknown'.
Speaking of Shanghai, I was disappointed to strike the GLOVIS SIRIUS off my list of possibles - the search continues....
I note however that the HOEGH KOBE is scheduled into Shanghai on Sunday. This ship is scheduled to arrive in Zeebrugge on 16 Nov as part of a scheduled service. The question is would Tesla use a scheduled ship or go for their usual whole ship charter...
She is due to depart around 8pm tonight however her destination still remains to be determined, although it's almost certain not to be Zeebrugge and more likely to be Shanghai. The ever-helpful San Francisco Gazette reports her destination as 'unknown'.
Speaking of Shanghai, I was disappointed to strike the GLOVIS SIRIUS off my list of possibles - the search continues....
I note however that the HOEGH KOBE is scheduled into Shanghai on Sunday. This ship is scheduled to arrive in Zeebrugge on 16 Nov as part of a scheduled service. The question is would Tesla use a scheduled ship or go for their usual whole ship charter...
It's still the wee small hours in San Francisco at the moment and there appears to be confusion regarding the departure time of VIKING DESTINY.
Originally she planned to depart around 6pm tonight however yesterday that was put back to 8pm. Now there are mixed messages of a possible further delay. No doubt all will become clear when the day shift pitch up but at the moment there is a very grumpy Captain.
Originally she planned to depart around 6pm tonight however yesterday that was put back to 8pm. Now there are mixed messages of a possible further delay. No doubt all will become clear when the day shift pitch up but at the moment there is a very grumpy Captain.
howardoark
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