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2020 Shipping Movements
- Thread starter Mr Miserable
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When I posted earlier "I will post more on the Panama Canal and what we can expect to see tomorrow afternoon" it means I will post more details tomorrow afternoon, including timings, webcams etc etc.But it's not nignt arrival local time. It would be midday/afternoon local. Not trying to split hairs here
I may have been a tad hasty with that announcement....
The source of the information is the San Francisco Chronicle which I have often criticised for its inaccurate shipping information.
It reports that the ship will depart on Monday. Bear in mind that the ship will only arrive at Pier 80 late on Saturday night that doesn't give much time to load, and she is a big ship too. Sounds wrong to me...
I also have yet to find evidence of the ship operating around Europe in December - she doesn't appear in any of the usual port schedules however I will keep looking.
So I'm finding it hard to believe that she is coming to Europe.
The next ship which is definitely coming to Europe is GLOVIS CRYSTAL and I expect her alongside Pier 80 at the end of next week.
How RCC AMSTERDAM squeezes in between these two I don't know....
You are saying SFChronicle is criticised for inaccurate info - so wouldn't it be possible that just the departure date is incorrect.
True, knowing the SF Chronicle the sailing date is probably incorrect too!
TOSCANA popped up as she rounded the southern tip of Sri Lanka.
It's quite possible we may not hear from her again until she approaches Suez on 16 Nov due to poor terrestrial AIS coverage and the complete absence of satellite position reports from her.
It's quite possible we may not hear from her again until she approaches Suez on 16 Nov due to poor terrestrial AIS coverage and the complete absence of satellite position reports from her.
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RCC ANTWERP continues to battle a 30kt headwind and high seas in the Mid Atlantic. Her speed has reduced to 11kts.
With 1538nm to go she is approaching the point where she will be unable to make up the time and will therefore arrive late into Zeebrugge - a cardinal sin in this business.
The forecast is for the weather to slowly improve over the next 24 hrs.
With 1538nm to go she is approaching the point where she will be unable to make up the time and will therefore arrive late into Zeebrugge - a cardinal sin in this business.
The forecast is for the weather to slowly improve over the next 24 hrs.
ajs117
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Given her max speed is about 20 knots and lets says for simplicity she is doing 10 knots. For every hour she’s in bad weather she’s going to be delayed by 30 minutes. See as she’s had a day of bad weather and got another day to come, my reckoning is a delay of about a day.
ajs117
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Haha oh dear! Is the ship/shipping company responsible for insurance claim? The clean up job must be pretty hefty too that I guess can cause frantic work at the ports situations... And again more claims on insurance? Or are these just the cost of business?
ginger biker
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to be fair the SF Chronicle date info stacks up with SF Port schedule info at least. Looks like the guys there have a busy few days on their hands!
RCC ANTWERP continues to battle a patch of stormy weather in the mid Atlantic about 300nm N of the Azores.
She is currently battling a 30kt headwind and a large swell which has impacted her progress to around 12 -13 kts.
At midday Z her position was N43.5 W30.0 which is about 250nm NNW of the Azores.
I calculate that has 1425nm to go to Zeebrugge and to arrive on schedule she would need to maintain at least 20kts. This is not going to happen and so she will be a few hours late arriving in Zeebrugge.
Looking at the synoptic chart you can see that she is pretty unlucky to find herself in a very narrow band of adverse weather.
It appears that she may have altered course a little to the east to get behind the warm front - this is a good idea and will increase her speed of progress towards Zeebrugge and also help to escape the weather.
I’ll review her situation later tonight
ETA remains Zeebrugge 10 Nov and Southampton 13 Nov
TRITON ACE At midday Z her position was N7.1 W79.9 which is at the southern most part of her journey to Europe.
She’s entering the Gulf of Panama and will anchor off Panama later today.
I will post more on the Panama Canal and what we can expect to see shortly.
She will arrive in Zeebrugge on 20 Nov and Southampton on 22 Nov
Last chance to enter the TRITON ACE competition - Click HERE to enter. The competition will close when she enters the canal.
GRAND AURORA is making steady progress towards the Panama Canal.
At midday Z she was 40nm SW of Cabo San Lucas at N22.4 W110.5 and maintaining 17kts.
She is on schedule to arrive at the Panama Canal on 12 Nov and the weather conditions continue to look good.
You can still enter the free GRAND AURORA competition - Click HERE to enter!
TOSCANA We caught a brief glimpse on AIS of her last night as she passed the southern tip of Sri Lanka.
The weather in her area continues to look fine and I’m not anticipating any significant weather for her crossing of the Arabian Sea.
She will arrive in Zeebrugge on 27 Nov
TANNHAUSER The good news is that her satellite AIS is working.
At midday Z she was at N25.5 E121.0 and making 15 kts about 35nm NW of Taiwan.
Winds of 35 - 40kts are howling through the Taiwan Strait at the moment directly towards Tropical Storm Atsani. It will still be a little uncomfortable but at least she is not battling headlong into the weather.
Atsani has not developed further into a typhoon but it is not decaying as fast as initially hoped either. I’m still hopeful that TANNHAUSER will be able to route around the storm to the east once she is clear of Taiwan later tonight.
She will arrive at Suez on 25 Nov and Zeebrugge of 6 Dec.
GLOVIS SUMMIT is the next ship to load at Pier 80. She will arrive at Pier 80 later tonight.
She is currently battling a 30kt headwind and a large swell which has impacted her progress to around 12 -13 kts.
At midday Z her position was N43.5 W30.0 which is about 250nm NNW of the Azores.
I calculate that has 1425nm to go to Zeebrugge and to arrive on schedule she would need to maintain at least 20kts. This is not going to happen and so she will be a few hours late arriving in Zeebrugge.
Looking at the synoptic chart you can see that she is pretty unlucky to find herself in a very narrow band of adverse weather.
It appears that she may have altered course a little to the east to get behind the warm front - this is a good idea and will increase her speed of progress towards Zeebrugge and also help to escape the weather.
I’ll review her situation later tonight
ETA remains Zeebrugge 10 Nov and Southampton 13 Nov
TRITON ACE At midday Z her position was N7.1 W79.9 which is at the southern most part of her journey to Europe.
She’s entering the Gulf of Panama and will anchor off Panama later today.
I will post more on the Panama Canal and what we can expect to see shortly.
She will arrive in Zeebrugge on 20 Nov and Southampton on 22 Nov
Last chance to enter the TRITON ACE competition - Click HERE to enter. The competition will close when she enters the canal.
GRAND AURORA is making steady progress towards the Panama Canal.
At midday Z she was 40nm SW of Cabo San Lucas at N22.4 W110.5 and maintaining 17kts.
She is on schedule to arrive at the Panama Canal on 12 Nov and the weather conditions continue to look good.
You can still enter the free GRAND AURORA competition - Click HERE to enter!
TOSCANA We caught a brief glimpse on AIS of her last night as she passed the southern tip of Sri Lanka.
The weather in her area continues to look fine and I’m not anticipating any significant weather for her crossing of the Arabian Sea.
She will arrive in Zeebrugge on 27 Nov
TANNHAUSER The good news is that her satellite AIS is working.
At midday Z she was at N25.5 E121.0 and making 15 kts about 35nm NW of Taiwan.
Winds of 35 - 40kts are howling through the Taiwan Strait at the moment directly towards Tropical Storm Atsani. It will still be a little uncomfortable but at least she is not battling headlong into the weather.
Atsani has not developed further into a typhoon but it is not decaying as fast as initially hoped either. I’m still hopeful that TANNHAUSER will be able to route around the storm to the east once she is clear of Taiwan later tonight.
She will arrive at Suez on 25 Nov and Zeebrugge of 6 Dec.
GLOVIS SUMMIT is the next ship to load at Pier 80. She will arrive at Pier 80 later tonight.
Good to see the San Francisco port schedule updated at last.
It does actually stack up with what I suggested ie the arrival of RCC AMSTERDAM and GLOVIS CRYSTAL.
The problem I have with GLOVIS SUMMIT is that it is a big ship and it isn't alongside long enough to load for a European trip. I put my feelers out and I'm being told that she will depart Pier 80 in the small hours of Monday morning (9th) When added to the fact that I can't find any evidence of the ship being scheduled into any European port in December, this just reeks to me of a departure to Asia.
At the moment I suspect RCC AMSTERDAM will head to Asia too.
Has to be the RCC Antwerp then as all other Vessel arrive after your collection date at Southampton
(if it is a LR or P, dont follow the SR+).
This might be useful - all estimates are mine
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