Glovis Sun is now at 19 knots. Maybe she is starting a race like the Amsterdam ?
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2020 Shipping Movements
- Thread starter Mr Miserable
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That is indeed good news. I suspect that being a new ship it was welcomed by Wallnius Wilhelmsen
For those who maybe unaware, the MAERSK OHIO has probably got containers with Model S and X onboard.Hi, is there anyone that may have a update on the position of the Maersk Ohio ? Last position is dating from november 29th (or maybe I am using the wrong websites to track it)
She is about 250nm SW of Ireland doing 18kts and on time to arrive in Rotterdam on Monday night.
The Mona Passage is the gap between the Dominican Republic to the west and Puerto Rico to the east.
On the Atlantic side lies the Puerto Rico Trench which is about 8000m deep whereas in the passage it's only about 100m deep.
On the Caribbean side it's about 1000m deep. Additionally, there is a significant current that runs from south to north.
This 'shallowness' in the passage can be responsible for some pretty treacherous seas with some horrendously big waves.
It's not something that is too much of a concern for big ships but for smaller vessels the 'dreaded' Mona Passage has a fearsome reputation and navigating it is something that needs careful advanced planning and respect.
It is also the site of a significant British victory in 1782 when British and French warships engaged there.
The speed shown on the websites and apps is what is known as the speed over ground as opposed to the speed through the water. The reason I mention this is because GLOVIS SUN is in an area known for its strong south to north current and so although she may be maintaining the same speed through the water her speed over the ground has increased possibly because she is being assisted by the current..
If you are waiting for MODEL S or Model X
Although Model S and Model X are made in the same US factory as the Model 3 their delivery journey to you is markedly different.
Both Model S and X are shipped partly assembled in containers (3 to a container).
They are moved by road from Fremont to the Oakland Joint Intermodal Terminal where they are loaded on to a train.
The train then takes about 9 or more bone-rattling days to travel to Houston. (actually BNSF Pearland).
The containers are then moved by road to the dock at Barbers Cut (webcams) where they are then loaded on to a scheduled container ship that eventually arrives 15 days later in Rotterdam (Note: Although the ships have a scheduled stop in Antwerp your containers are unloaded in Rotterdam).
The current shipping schedules show: Dep Houston Arr Rotterdam
MAERSK OHIO 22/11 - 7/12
SAFMARINE MAFADI 30/11 - 14/12
From Rotterdam the containers are moved by road (or barge) to Tilburg in Holland. Your car is removed from the container and then joins a mini production line where it is reassembled. It is then moved to Zeebrugge and shipped to Southampton.
As can be seen, all this takes time.
Finding your car in this complex logistics chain is difficult but there is a man who can. @Vedaprime is the specialist in this area. You can find him here but he normally resides on Twitter.
Although Model S and Model X are made in the same US factory as the Model 3 their delivery journey to you is markedly different.
Both Model S and X are shipped partly assembled in containers (3 to a container).
They are moved by road from Fremont to the Oakland Joint Intermodal Terminal where they are loaded on to a train.
The train then takes about 9 or more bone-rattling days to travel to Houston. (actually BNSF Pearland).
The containers are then moved by road to the dock at Barbers Cut (webcams) where they are then loaded on to a scheduled container ship that eventually arrives 15 days later in Rotterdam (Note: Although the ships have a scheduled stop in Antwerp your containers are unloaded in Rotterdam).
The current shipping schedules show: Dep Houston Arr Rotterdam
MAERSK OHIO 22/11 - 7/12
SAFMARINE MAFADI 30/11 - 14/12
From Rotterdam the containers are moved by road (or barge) to Tilburg in Holland. Your car is removed from the container and then joins a mini production line where it is reassembled. It is then moved to Zeebrugge and shipped to Southampton.
As can be seen, all this takes time.
Finding your car in this complex logistics chain is difficult but there is a man who can. @Vedaprime is the specialist in this area. You can find him here but he normally resides on Twitter.
The work on the lock in Zeebrugge continues and I have highlighted the next period when the lock will be closed. Just as well there are no Tesla ships due to arrive during this period.....or answer B.
BS284 PVD-Lock Interruption for the shipping traffic
From:
13/11/2020
till:
09/12/2020
Due to maintenance works the P. Vandamme Lock will be interrupted for the shipping traffic on:
- Monday the 23rd of November 2020 from 8h00 till 13h00
- Wednesday the 25th of November 2020 from 08h00 until Thursday the 26th of November 02h00
-Monday the 7th until Wednesday the 9th of December 2020 from 8h00 until 13h00
Each time until the mentioned end time or as much shorter as possible or longer as necessary.
All ships (inward- and outward bound) are requested to order the necessary tugs in time (minimum 4 hrs in advance).
RCC AMSTERDAM and GLOVIS CRYSTAL may be delayed.....
BS284 PVD-Lock Interruption for the shipping traffic
From:
13/11/2020
till:
09/12/2020
Due to maintenance works the P. Vandamme Lock will be interrupted for the shipping traffic on:
- Monday the 23rd of November 2020 from 8h00 till 13h00
- Wednesday the 25th of November 2020 from 08h00 until Thursday the 26th of November 02h00
-Monday the 7th until Wednesday the 9th of December 2020 from 8h00 until 13h00
Each time until the mentioned end time or as much shorter as possible or longer as necessary.
All ships (inward- and outward bound) are requested to order the necessary tugs in time (minimum 4 hrs in advance).
RCC AMSTERDAM and GLOVIS CRYSTAL may be delayed.....
LongRanger
Active Member
Seriously, I get a crazy busy few weeks at work, to come back and find 15+ new pages of shipping news coming in from all angles, it’s bonkers ! Casa Miserable must be draining the local grid with 15 monitors looking at all this lot 24/7
More exciting times for more lucky new owners. Enjoy the ride folks, it’s worth it in the end !
More exciting times for more lucky new owners. Enjoy the ride folks, it’s worth it in the end !
M3-Mark
Member
Big shout out to @Mr Miserable who is an absolute hero. My M3P is onboard the Amsterdam and tracking it's movements has been as exciting as ordering the car in the first place! I'm sure this has been said before but Mr M should be on the Tesla payroll and he doesn't get enough thanks for his amazing work on this forum! We are not worthy
tardis56
Member
Due thanks to Mr M for his informative charts and updates. Still on schedule for mine to be delivered at Southampton on the 15th as long as Glovis Crystal gets a move on.
SpareHeadOne
Member
"Interrupted" seems like a weird term to use, does it mean closed or just limited in operation?
The port schedule still shows ships arriving and departing in that 7th-9th window, but then again it also has no mention of RCC AMSTERDAM arriving at all, so I'm not sure how reliable it is as a source of information
The port schedule still shows ships arriving and departing in that 7th-9th window, but then again it also has no mention of RCC AMSTERDAM arriving at all, so I'm not sure how reliable it is as a source of information
She is shown under her former name of HOEGH AMSTERDAM. The Zeebrugge port schedule is not as accurate as the Southampton one."Interrupted" seems like a weird term to use, does it mean closed or just limited in operation?
The port schedule still shows ships arriving and departing in that 7th-9th window, but then again it also has no mention of RCC AMSTERDAM arriving at all, so I'm not sure how reliable it is as a source of information
4 ships in the Atlantic today!
RCC AMSTERDAM continues to close on Zeebrugge at 17.9kts.
Her ETA is 22:00 on 8 Dec however she could arrive several hours early if she maintains this speed.
She is presently just 100nm N of GLOVIS CRYSTAL and has now overtaken her.
The weather shouldn’t pose any problems although it may get a little rough tomorrow.
My only concern is the scheduled closure of the P Vandamme lock in Zeebrugge harbour which I posted about last night.
I can only assume that the work is actually not going ahead as planned. I hope so.
GLOVIS CRYSTAL Over the last 24hrs she has averaged 13.6kts
The Zeebrugge Port Schedule is now showing her due to arrive at midnight on Tuesday.
At her present speed she should arrive on schedule.
The latest weather forecast is not showing anything of concern although tomorrow may be a little rough.
My concern about the scheduled work on the locks applies to this ship too.
GLOVIS SUN She entered the Atlantic via the Mona passage last night
She is maintaining a healthy 18kts and there are no weather issues for the moment.
Her estimate for Zeebrugge is 15 Dec
LYDDEN departed Newark this morning and is now making 19kts.
The weather shouldn’t pose any major problems although she is passing through any area of 5m high waves at present which will reduce as the day moves on.
Her AIS is showing that she will arrive in Zeebrugge at midnight on 14 Dec
The only other point worthy of note is that the Southampton port schedule has been updated to show movements up to and including Friday 11th and there is no sign of either RCC AMSTERDAM or GLOVIS CRYSTAL. I suspect they will stay in Zeebrugge a little longer and cross load so that only 1 ship comes to Southampton. My guess would be RCC AMSTERDAM.
We shall see...
RCC AMSTERDAM continues to close on Zeebrugge at 17.9kts.
Her ETA is 22:00 on 8 Dec however she could arrive several hours early if she maintains this speed.
She is presently just 100nm N of GLOVIS CRYSTAL and has now overtaken her.
The weather shouldn’t pose any problems although it may get a little rough tomorrow.
My only concern is the scheduled closure of the P Vandamme lock in Zeebrugge harbour which I posted about last night.
I can only assume that the work is actually not going ahead as planned. I hope so.
GLOVIS CRYSTAL Over the last 24hrs she has averaged 13.6kts
The Zeebrugge Port Schedule is now showing her due to arrive at midnight on Tuesday.
At her present speed she should arrive on schedule.
The latest weather forecast is not showing anything of concern although tomorrow may be a little rough.
My concern about the scheduled work on the locks applies to this ship too.
GLOVIS SUN She entered the Atlantic via the Mona passage last night
She is maintaining a healthy 18kts and there are no weather issues for the moment.
Her estimate for Zeebrugge is 15 Dec
LYDDEN departed Newark this morning and is now making 19kts.
The weather shouldn’t pose any major problems although she is passing through any area of 5m high waves at present which will reduce as the day moves on.
Her AIS is showing that she will arrive in Zeebrugge at midnight on 14 Dec
The only other point worthy of note is that the Southampton port schedule has been updated to show movements up to and including Friday 11th and there is no sign of either RCC AMSTERDAM or GLOVIS CRYSTAL. I suspect they will stay in Zeebrugge a little longer and cross load so that only 1 ship comes to Southampton. My guess would be RCC AMSTERDAM.
We shall see...
Mr. M,
If the German factory will be supplying Model Y vehicles to the U.K. how will they get there? It's either by ship or the Chunnel, right?
I would hate to see you have to take up knitting when you are so productive here!
RT
If the German factory will be supplying Model Y vehicles to the U.K. how will they get there? It's either by ship or the Chunnel, right?
I would hate to see you have to take up knitting when you are so productive here!
RT
I haven't given it much thought but I would imagine by ship. There are daily services from Bremerhaven to UK. The German factory will start with the LHD Model Y and so I wouldn't be surprised if the UK's initial batch of Model Ys come from elsewhere.
I know you previously said that shipping was much less expensive than train transport, but I believe that was in reference to S.F. to Europe versus first going by train to the East Coast and then shipping. What's the cost equation on shipping from Germany to the U.K. versus via train? You would think that as developed as the train network is it might make sense, though maybe the Chunnel trains aren't designed for car transport?
RT
Railfreight in the UK has always played second fiddle to the 'glamour' of passenger services in terms of investment and utilisation. Althought the situation has improved over the last 20 years there remains plenty of theoretical capacity but certain nettles would need to be firmly grasped to enable a revolution to occur and the road transport lobby in the UK is very powerful. The only manufacturer to move cars by rail in the UK are Ford and maybe Honda (Honda will close its UK factory next summer in line with its global 'collapse'). The Chunnel would be too expensive in comparison to sea freight for cars. I'm sure the GF planners will have chosen railfreight as the prime choice for moving cars from the factory within Europe but cars for the UK will probably be railfreighted only as far as the docks. Which docks? That will be decided by someone with a big spreadsheet.
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