That website is not a reliable source of information. It is also prone to exaggeration and breathless enthusiasm for all things Tesla. I have been a Tesla fan and owner since 2013 and I don’t take the articles on that site seriously.
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2021 / 2022 Range
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Here are more details for you. When I read this it appears the new battery is 3kwh smaller, or about 10 miles. The rest of the range reduction is probably due to the new motors. Hopefully over time the software driving those more powerful motors can be tuned and give us some additional range.
What I like best about the new battery pack is the thermal enhancements so it can add 175 miles in 15 minutes. My X75D takes almost an hour to add that many miles.
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What I like best about the new battery pack is the thermal enhancements so it can add 175 miles in 15 minutes. My X75D takes almost an hour to add that many miles.
Tesla upgraded Model X with higher battery energy density and more powerful motors
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The charge time is a huge bonusHere are more details for you. When I read this it appears the new battery is 3kwh smaller, or about 10 miles. The rest of the range reduction is probably due to the new motors. Hopefully over time the software driving those more powerful motors can be tuned and give us some additional range.
What I like best about the new battery pack is the thermal enhancements so it can add 175 miles in 15 minutes. My X75D takes almost an hour to add that many miles.
Tesla upgraded Model X with higher battery energy density and more powerful motors
New EPA documents reveal the main powertrain upgrades that Tesla applied to the new Model X – higher battery energy...
"The overall energy capacity went down from 103 kWh to 100 kWh."
Tesla upgraded Model X with higher battery energy density and more powerful motors
New EPA documents reveal the main powertrain upgrades that Tesla applied to the new Model X – higher battery energy...
electrek.co
At some point several people were theorizing that refresh X has a smaller battery pack, purposely shaped like the smaller 4680 structural pack might eventually be.
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They shrunk the pack (I swear I read somewhere on here it was ~94kWh, maybe that was usable capacity) to increase profit margin - no other reason. There is space in the pack for more cells. What are you going to do? Until there is viable competition, your choice is Tesla or ICE. Tesla is squeezing their customers as hard as they can. As long as their order books are full, they simply don't care.
I'm not so sure about that. Batteries are not the easiest commodity to come by, even for Tesla. They are having to rob Peter (semi, Cybertruck) to pay Paul (model Y, Megapack, power wall and model 3) for batteries.
I wish this was true but it doesn’t seem to be. The plaid S charging curve is 1:1 identical with my LR++ Xs…
I don't think that's going to be true for the US cars at all. I have an H battery X and have watched some of the S charging curve videos as well and this result seems to jive pretty well with what they see:
insideevs.com
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It's holding 250kw from almost-zero to almost 35% in this graph. And here's a real-world owner reporting:
teslamotorsclub.com
I have never observed better than 210kw, and it de-rates to 100-105kw on its best day by 50%. The curve may be the same shape but at least in the US, it's 30-40kw shy of what the new cars can do until you get above 50% and then they start to converge a bit
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It's holding 250kw from almost-zero to almost 35% in this graph. And here's a real-world owner reporting:
2021 model s long range real world super charging is FAST
Hey friends, I took my new 2021 refreshed Model S long range with the 19” wheels and the speed was unbelievable. Especially compared to my old 2018 75d. 10% Soc 62F started charging at a 160kw instantly Climbed to 250kw by 14% Stayed at 250kw until 35% Stay over 150kw until 50% Stay...
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I have never observed better than 210kw, and it de-rates to 100-105kw on its best day by 50%. The curve may be the same shape but at least in the US, it's 30-40kw shy of what the new cars can do until you get above 50% and then they start to converge a bit
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This hasn't been the case with the you tubers I've seen. Plaid and refresh seem definitely faster.
Show me one that is faster and i believe it. This one goes below 100kW at 67% (see the screenshot) and reaches 80% and 90% exactly like the plaid ones i’ve seen.
Here in the EU ccs adapter limits the max power at 143kW until 50% so i can’t comment on the peak powers. They are not real here.
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I'm not aware of anybody actually proving up the "up to 250kw" claim on the Ravens either.
Which is fine, it's a matter of minutes' difference in charge times in the real world per stop, unless you're towing or it's -30 degrees. But it's definitely not near as fast from 0-50% as the refresh cars, in the US where regulators haven't caused a bottleneck
Which is fine, it's a matter of minutes' difference in charge times in the real world per stop, unless you're towing or it's -30 degrees. But it's definitely not near as fast from 0-50% as the refresh cars, in the US where regulators haven't caused a bottleneck
I don't have my replacement X yet so can't comment on its speed. But I had the chance to use one of the new fast chargers at Sand City on our 3 LR and saw 1000 mile per hour. From 9% to 50% went real fast. From there to 80% if decreased, but not as much as I expected. By the time I used the restroom and drank a latte the car was ready to go.
I hope my replacement X charges as fast.
I hope my replacement X charges as fast.
Show me proof instead of repeating it. Screenshot or something above 100kW after 67%, 142kW at 46% or 78kW at 80%. These numbers are from my car. Even if it would do few minutes at 250kW in the US and the rest of the curve is the same or worse, i’m not impressed.
That said, this car was also sold around the world with a promise of 250kW. They just never delivered here in the EU - some people in the twitter claim that they did in the US and it does that up to 30%.
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