2021 M3P preforms worse than LR and a 2019 M3P

[Gasaraki]

As a 2021 M3P owner this is really disappointing. There are huge WHP differences between the 2019 and 2021 performance models let alone the 2021 LR. I paid 10k extra for the performance model. Hope there is a fix or I got ripped off.

I think you should sell the car.

 

[Gasaraki]

Well if it’s the first, it’s not acceptable. I don’t believe that this is something that slipped through the cracks of a mega company. This kind of thing doesn’t happen by accident. If the answer is it’s a byproduct of their new batteries there are going to be a lot of unhappy customers both existing and prospective and it should have been disclosed. Some folks on Reddit are holding on orders pending an answer from Tesla and I don’t blame them one bit. This is a pretty significant development for M3P owners. Also as I understand things it’s only a matter of time until it affects the entire Model 3 range. Hopefully, it’s a software fix or at least can be mitigated by software.

Because in Track mode it wants to cool the battery, not heat it up. What you want is like a launch control thing where it heats up the battery for max discharge.

 

[clerks]

I think you should sell the car.

LOL. Probably won't go over well with the wife. This issue is hard enough to explain here; I don't think she will be sympathetic.

 

[clerks]

Because in Track mode it wants to cool the battery, not heat it up. What you want is like a launch control thing where it heats up the battery for max discharge.

While not ideal, this would be a reasonable solution and would it least give us choice.

 

[sightman]

Because in Track mode it wants to cool the battery, not heat it up. What you want is like a launch control thing where it heats up the battery for max discharge.

yes, and they could call it ludicrous mode!

 

[Joshan]

Then you need glasses.

Than post a link instead of an insult? Every google search tells me that CATL or LG makes them for China, not Panasonic.

 

[Joshan]

LG Chem, alongside CATL, supplies battery cells for Tesla’s Model 3 sedan built in Shanghai, where production began last year and whose current annual capacity is 250,000 cars. T

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/01/lg-chem-to-double-china-battery-capacity-to-meet-tesla-demand.html

 

[jjrandorin]

LG Chem, alongside CATL, supplies battery cells for Tesla’s Model 3 sedan built in Shanghai, where production began last year and whose current annual capacity is 250,000 cars. T

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/01/lg-chem-to-double-china-battery-capacity-to-meet-tesla-demand.html

The extensive discussion (45+ pages) of 2021 tesla model 3 batteries is here:
MASTER THREAD: 2021 Model 3 - Charge data, battery discussion etc

I am not following that thread as I dont really care about the subject, but thats where the discussion is happening. You can likely find out everything TMC currently knows about 2021 model 3 batteries in that thread.

 

[Punkabilly]

The extensive discussion (45+ pages) of 2021 tesla model 3 batteries is here:
MASTER THREAD: 2021 Model 3 - Charge data, battery discussion etc

I am not following that thread as I dont really care about the subject, but thats where the discussion is happening. You can likely find out everything TMC currently knows about 2021 model 3 batteries in that thread.

The really simple answer is there isn't a made in china model 3 performance yet. Paperwork approval happened in early December 2020, with production at giga shanghai for early/middle 2021.

All model 3 performance models are currently made in Fremont.

2021 Tesla Model 3 sold in Australia will be made in China | CarAdvice.

 

[P3dStealth]

Has anyone checked the motor part numbers on the 2021 performance? Is it still 1120980?

 

[Ralbright]

Has anyone checked the motor part numbers on the 2021 performance? Is it still 1120980?

@clerks

 

[clerks]

Has anyone checked the motor part numbers on the 2021 performance? Is it still 1120980?

How do I check? Glad to do it.

 

[Kerry Blue]

Might be able to help a little. Image is from Dragy and verified, outside temp 28 degrees F, 2021 M3P. The car had been driven for approximately ten minutes, seat heater on, heater on at 72 degrees, stereo on, 230lb driver, battery around 55-60%.
As you can see 0-60 with 1ft rollout (same measure Tesla uses) is 3.23.

 

[clerks]

Might be able to help a little. Image is from Dragy and verified, outside temp 28 degrees F, 2021 M3P. The car had been driven for approximately ten minutes, seat heater on, heater on at 72 degrees, stereo on, 230lb driver, battery around 55-60%.
As you can see 0-60 with 1ft rollout (same measure Tesla uses) is 3.23.

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Not bad. Very helpful.

 

[Apprunner]

Might be able to help a little. Image is from Dragy and verified, outside temp 28 degrees F, 2021 M3P. The car had been driven for approximately ten minutes, seat heater on, heater on at 72 degrees, stereo on, 230lb driver, battery around 55-60%.
As you can see 0-60 with 1ft rollout (same measure Tesla uses) is 3.23.

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You need to take the car apart to see if they use LG or Panasonic batteries. Thanks.

 

[stopcrazypp]

You need to take the car apart to see if they use LG or Panasonic batteries. Thanks.

I imagine just looking at the battery part number is enough. If I recall correctly you can see it from the outside, so shouldn't need taking the car apart.
Searched up the post for reference:
MASTER THREAD: 2021 Model 3 and differences from 2020

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

I imagine just looking at the battery part number is enough. If I recall correctly you can see it from the outside, so shouldn't need taking the car apart.
Searched up the post for reference:
MASTER THREAD: 2021 Model 3 and differences from 2020

Based on my method, @FredMt put together a much better description:

Taking a picture of the battery label

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

How do I check? Glad to do it.

It is probably still a 980. The AWD is a 990 as it has been since mid-2019 or so.

Taking a picture of the rear motor plate

 

[Devils son]

Than post a link instead of an insult? Every google search tells me that CATL or LG makes them for China, not Panasonic.

Perfect. It is impossible to get 82 kWh in the Model 3 using LG or the LFP cells. It just does not fit.

 

[clerks]

You need to take the car apart to see if they use LG or Panasonic batteries. Thanks.

Assuming this is sarcasm, the Dragy data is definitely useful. Bjorn recorded at zero to 100kmh at 4.00 at 60SOC and 4.22 at 50SOC for the 2021 versus a 3.68 and 3.71 for the 2019. Not sure if he uses the 1 foot rollout or not.