2021 Model X, Monroney Sticker Range Increase

[dmurphy]

Awesome! We now probably know what makes the "H" battery pack different from the "G". My June 2020 build is a "G" pack - I think you're the first "H" we've seen in-the-wild...?

 

[Booga]

Any chance it has a heat pump?

 

[Fred42]

As of 4:48 p.m. EDT on October 13, Tesla's website shows the same old 351 mile range.

 

[ColdWeatherEV]

I believe 100% of newly manufactured EVs must include the pedestrian warning speaker as of the end of September 2020. We heard a Model X with the pedestrian warning speaker last week at the Tesla Superior (Colorado) location. It was a 2020 vehicle, obviously as the 2021s haven't been delivered yet.

Yes, it has the pedestrian warning sound. I've only heard it from inside the car, and it wasn't too obnoxious. I'll have my wife drive the car forward and backward in the driveway to see how loud it is from the outside.

 

[mikes_fsd]

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76 more rated miles per charge
$21,000 cheaper.

Talk about bringing down the price of battery pack!!

 

[ColdWeatherEV]

Any chance it has a heat pump?

That is a good question, but I don't have an answer. There is a mystery however, as I noticed that the driving menu no longer has the option for "range mode". Was that removed from the pervious Ravens or is this unique to the 2021's?

 

[csugar21]

That is a good question, but I don't have an answer. There is a mystery however, as I noticed that the driving menu no longer has the option for "range mode". Was that removed from the pervious Ravens or is this unique to the 2021's?

Range mode is on my 2020 March Build

 

[Reason]

Fascinating - my 2020 LR+ (Model F Battery) seems to be the same on the MPGe - but still has the 351. Think there is a battery upgrade in the H? Or is this an update that is coming? (or a typo?)

 

[sleepnclass]

Anyone know if the performance will see the same range increase or similar?

 

[EZBoy]

So if we use average kilowatts per 100 miles from the sticker:

Old model X : 2.95 x 39kw/100miles = 115 kw pack

New model X : 3.71x 32kw/100miles = 118 kw pack

I am sure the old pack was not 115kw so I guess there is some kind of flaw in the assumption, but I think it’s safe to say the new pack has 3kw more energy, but most range improvements come from elsewhere

 

[mtndrew1]

So if we use average kilowatts per 100 miles from the sticker:

Old model X : 2.95 x 39kw/100miles = 115 kw pack

New model X : 3.71x 32kw/100miles = 118 kw pack

I am sure the old pack was not 115kw so I guess there is some kind of flaw in the assumption, but I think it’s safe to say the new pack has 3kw more energy, but most range improvements come from elsewhere

The EPA numbers include charging losses. It’s kWh from the wall.

 

[verygreen]

So if we use average kilowatts per 100 miles from the sticker:

Old model X : 2.95 x 39kw/100miles = 115 kw pack

New model X : 3.71x 32kw/100miles = 118 kw pack

I am sure the old pack was not 115kw so I guess there is some kind of flaw in the assumption, but I think it’s safe to say the new pack has 3kw more energy, but most range improvements come from elsewhere

conversion losses as they measure at the wall and efficiency is like 85% or some such

 

[Dave EV]

FWIW, here are the ratings for the 2017-2020 Model X 100D / Long Range according to fueleconomy.gov

2017: 86 / 89 MPGe City / Hwy, 87 MPGe combined, 39 kWh / 100 mi, 295 miles total range
2018: 86 / 89 MPGe City / Hwy, 87 MPGe combined, 39 kWh / 100 mi, 295 miles total range (no change)
2019: 99 / 93 MPGe City / Hwy, 96 MPGe combined, 35 kWh / 100 mi, 325 miles total range ("Raven", PM front motor)
2020: 99 / 93 MPGe City / Hwy, 96 MPGe combined, 35 kWh / 100 mi, 328 miles total range (minor tweaks and Tesla sandbagging until planned updates ready?)
2020: 108 / 101 MPGe City / Hwy, 105 MPGe combined, 32 kWh / 100 mi, 351 miles total range (3/2020 mfg window sticker @Reason - more enhancements)
2021: 109 / 101 MPGe City / Hwy, 105 MPGe combined, 32 kWh / 100 mi, 371 miles total range (9/2020 mfg window sticker @ColdWeatherEV - bigger battery?)

@ColdWeatherEV - Can you confirm your mfg month?

Looks to me that the Model S/X are getting the just rumored ~5% capacity increase: 351 * 1.05 = 368 = pretty close to 371.

Edit: Source of 5% capacity boost rumor (Reuters, though it was in relation to 2170 cells - maybe the same chemistry improvements are going into all cells?)
Exclusive: Panasonic aims to boost energy density in Tesla batteries by 20% - executive

 

[ColdWeatherEV]

FWIW, here are the ratings for the 2017-2020 Model X 100D / Long Range according to fueleconomy.gov

@ColdWeatherEV - Can you confirm your mfg month?

The sticker by the driver's door show mfg of 9/20

 

[Dave EV]

The sticker by the driver's door show mfg of 9/20

Thanks, makes perfect sense, then, that's when the +5% capacity cells were rumored to start rolling out from Panasonic.

 

[MP3Mike]

Thanks, makes perfect sense, then, that's when the +5% capacity cells were rumored to start rolling out from Panasonic.

But those are 2170s from GF1 not the imported 18650s that go in the X.

 

[Snatcher]

I'll check my sticker and battery later, but I took delivery of my X LR+ 2-3 weeks ago. It has a "L" vin but it showed 354 miles of range when I got to the dealer and 6 miles on the odometer.

 

[dmurphy]

I'll check my sticker and battery later, but I took delivery of my X LR+ 2-3 weeks ago. It has a "L" vin but it showed 354 miles of range when I got to the dealer and 6 miles on the odometer.

Right, that's likely the "G" version of the battery pack. Mine showed the same when I picked it up this June; with 12,000 miles on the odometer, it's since drifted down to 351. So awesome - I'm thrilled.

 

[Jaimebond]

Hey dilemma. I have an x on order w plan for delivery saturday w an L vin. Worried I wont be getting a 2021 w increased range. Whatre rhe options. I already paid tesla the downpayment on the loan and uploaded the sticker but havent taken delivery. Is it possible to tell them I dont want this one and wait for a 2021 version?

 

[BM3B]

I took delivery of a new 2020 X LR+ built 9/20 on 9/24/2020, "H" battery, 2020 VIN, 352 mile range at 100%. It's either a typo or there will be a software update to longer range that hopefully will benefit my new X.