2021 Refresh Model S Discussion

[Needsdecaf]

IMHO the "turbo" label cheapens the Porsche. Who calls a BEV a turbo? That's old school ICE terminology.

Because existing Porsche owners equate it with "Top Dog". Turbo is now a trim level. Every single Panamera, Cayenne and Macan are turbocharged. Most 718's and 911's are as well (except 718 GTS and GT4 / Spyder models, and the 911 GT3). Yet only one / two trims say Turbo.

 

[Ohmster]

I think people who like nice stuff appreciate good design. Churn for the sake of churn is not a sign of good design--the constant changes to the IC and MCU UI for no apparent goal in mind are a prime example--it's the opposite, it's a sign of disposable design. Below is a pic I have always appreciated in that it shows how Porsche felt they had a winner with 911 design and committed to it while keeping contemporary.

Arguing which car has better tail lights is like arguing which brand of bourbon is better--there is no right answer, it's a matter of taste. But I think it's off base to claim that sticking to certain design cues is somehow a mistake.

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Agreed. I’ve always advocated keeping the ‘essence and soul’ of the S. That in no way dissuades the need for changes. Improvements are always welcome. The 911 has certainly changed over the years but you can identify it as a 911 regardless of make year. The Panamera is still the Panamera in identity and appearance but the recent changes were substantial. And made the car significantly better looking in my view.

The S can look different in time without becoming something else.

 

[SO16]

Lot of people on the Taycan forum ponying up the extra $$ to get a Porsche vs. a Model S Plaid. Quite a few former Tesla owners in fact.

Not surprising since probably many of those Tesla owners have owned multiple S’s by now.

The real question, what will those people buy AFTER owning the Taycan?

 

[Daniellane]

I don't see the ambient light strips in this one, maybe that isn't what they are or maybe they just aren't on this one.

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I’m wondering if there are only 2 cup holders that are accessible in the front seat. That would be disappointing. It appears that water bottles can be stored in the door pockets. Currently there are 4 cup holders in my 2018 Model S. 6 if you count the 2 in the back of the center console for rear passengers which are accessible from the front seats. I converted mine to 5 (7) in the front with a 3D printed cupholder doubler. Video Below:

Tesla Model S/X Cup Holder Doubler!

 

[Str8down]

I’m wondering if there are only 2 cup holders that are accessible in the front seat. That would be disappointing. It appears that water bottles can be stored in the door pockets. Currently there are 4 cup holders in my 2018 Model S. 6 if you count the 2 in the back of the center console for rear passengers which are accessible from the front seats. I converted mine to 5 (7) in the front with a 3D printed cupholder doubler. Video Below:

Tesla Model S/X Cup Holder Doubler!

Dang, you are 1 thirsty guy.

 

[dannycamps]

They're just throwing back to 90s era PCs!

Hey those turbo buttons on older PCs actually did something

 

[Filter]

Waiting for more pictures... I keep hoping Tesla will release more information soon!!

 

[Hayseed_MS]

I’m wondering if there are only 2 cup holders that are accessible in the front seat. That would be disappointing. It appears that water bottles can be stored in the door pockets. Currently there are 4 cup holders in my 2018 Model S. 6 if you count the 2 in the back of the center console for rear passengers which are accessible from the front seats. I converted mine to 5 (7) in the front with a 3D printed cupholder doubler. Video Below:

Tesla Model S/X Cup Holder Doubler!

Working on one to go on top of the yoke in all that empty space.

 

[elguapo]

Working on one to go on top of the yoke in all that empty space.

Cup holders have never been a strong suit for Tesla. I think the refreshed S and X will hold fewer bottles/cups because the center console doesn't appear to slide like the current one, so they're putting the cup holders in front of it (I think), but still too close together from what we've been able to see. We shall see...

 

[Hayseed_MS]

You can put a whole Happy Meal on this one...

 

[Mr X]

I’m buying the Plaid and I wish it was an ICE car.

A sentence no one has ever said


And no. You don't. Lol

 

[SoCalDude]

I’m wondering if there are only 2 cup holders that are accessible in the front seat. That would be disappointing. It appears that water bottles can be stored in the door pockets. Currently there are 4 cup holders in my 2018 Model S. 6 if you count the 2 in the back of the center console for rear passengers which are accessible from the front seats. I converted mine to 5 (7) in the front with a 3D printed cupholder doubler. Video Below:

Tesla Model S/X Cup Holder Doubler!

There are a few solid aftermarket alternatives to adding cup holders in a Model S. I am thinking about a group buy...

 

[Stealth.Pilot]

The wood now looks out of place. If they got rid of the " old-school" chrome on the exterior, then why have the old-school wood?

Especially with that yoke, which is as modern looking as a road vehicle gets, resembling aircraft, how many cockpits have wood in them?

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I don't see why people think a modern interior means no wood. The trend in modern design is to into integrate organic elements with manmade elements. Have a look a this interior design picture for an example of modern style with extensive use of wood.

 

[dark cloud]

I don't see why people think a modern interior means no wood. The trend in modern design is to into integrate organic elements with manmade elements. Have a look a this interior design picture for an example of modern style with extensive use of wood.

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okay, but the chick with the gum has to go.

 

[emailforbrett]

A sentence no one has ever said


And no. You don't. Lol

Yes. I do.

 

[Zextraterrestrial]

The wood now looks out of place. If they got rid of the " old-school" chrome on the exterior, then why have the old-school wood?

Especially with that yoke, which is as modern looking as a road vehicle gets, resembling aircraft, how many cockpits have wood in them?

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you've seen the model 3 interior? with ONE piece of wood!? it is very out of place
I painted mine black...

 

[cgiGuy]

 

[artsci]

Because existing Porsche owners equate it with "Top Dog". Turbo is now a trim level. Every single Panamera, Cayenne and Macan are turbocharged. Most 718's and 911's are as well (except 718 GTS and GT4 / Spyder models, and the 911 GT3). Yet only one / two trims say Turbo.

I can imagine all the screaming and complaints on this site if Tesla called the Plaid+ a “turbo”

 

[ucmndd]

I like the wood accents in the cabin--good blend of classic + modern. I would be OK with no wood, as long as it looks good. Not a fan of CF trim in any scenario.

+1

Carbon fiber is the new chrome. Used to be exotic and expensive to produce, so it came to resemble some expression of status.

Then they figured out how to imitate it with cheap-ass plastic or greatly reduce the cost through other techniques, and it ended up everywhere, with 90% of applications just looking tacky.

 

[Needsdecaf]

Wood can look modern.

Not all woods look modern.

Tesla wood does not look modern. Most automotive "woods" look pretty cheesy.

I would totally rock this wooden espresso machine
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Colored differently, would look good in this kitchen.