2021 Shipping Movements

[nkajkmuk]

I have been, by some intuition, obsessed/tuned-in to Helios Ray since I place the order for a M3LR late September. I was a bit disappointed that it turned itself away from Shanghai earlier, but hopes are high again seeing its approach to Shanghai.

Assuming that the orders are matched only when the car is loaded on to a ship, I am still on thee lookout for a ship that will carry a big chunk of the Q4 orders. As all the ships that have set sail to Southampton seem to have late Q3 orders as noticed by the flurry of VIN allocation in the last couple of weeks and the lack of it for any deep September orders.

Hope Mr. M can shed a bit more light on Helios Ray in the following days and thanks Mr. M.

 

[Mr Miserable]

TALIA continues her dash up the Red Sea towards Suez where she will arrive tomorrow evening.

LAKE FUXIAN continues to race towards Singapore at over 19 kt. I'm not expecting her to dock there but just refuel in an anchorage before continuing her voyage, hopefully to Suez and beyond. She is due to arrive off Singapore tomorrow morning.

LAKE GENEVA is now clear of any weather but hasn't increased her speed much. She is presently making 16.6 kts which is in the economic long range cruise speed bracket and makes her ETA for Suez a tad marginal in my opinion. I'll perhaps take a closer look at her probable navigation plan and the long range weather forecasts tonight. Most Masters like to build up a small time cushion to allow for unexpected delays further down the route, if the fuel consumption allows, rather than leave the voyage management system (the computer) in full control. She is presently enjoying a tailwind and a following sea which is the ideal opportunity to build up such a cushion at minimal cost - but the computer doesn't know that.

 

[Jayster]

I'm not going to name her yet simply because there is at least one person who uses this thread as a source of information to subsequently sell on.

Disappointing this is happening, as always thank you very much Mr M for all the effort you put in to provide these shipping updates.

 

[Simonix]

Disappointing this is happening, as always thank you very much Mr M for all the effort you put in to provide these shipping updates.

I agree! A real shame there are people that exploit Mr. M’s help/info.

 

[_SunShine]

Who in the world will pay for such informations ?!? ... it is just ship tracking ... and a kind of lottery .. especially for a waiting one like me

 

[Mr Miserable]

I just wonder why many of the named vessels do not appear on the schedules for example of Zeebrugge or is it normal, that ships are listet short before arrival ? THEMIS for example.

Arrivals and departures of cruises | Port of Antwerp-Bruges

Zeebrugge port arrivals board took a real hit when schedules started to fall apart from COVID issues and port congestion. I suspect it is updated by one person as you can tell when he/she goes on holiday - nothing gets updated at all. It has never really been a totally reliable source and in the last year I have consulted it less and less. I will quote it occasionally but only if it fits with data from elsewhere. For port arrivals in the next 3 days it can be useful.
Zeebrugge is not alone, most European ports are not publishing bookings much more than 1 or 2 weeks in advance nowadays as looking this far ahead can be pretty fluid. Bizarrely, a lot of the published port data remains manually updated and so data that can be cut 'n'pasted easily into the board would make it but info that arrived by fax (still heavily used) or otherwise just wouldn't get typed in, at least that is what I strongly suspect.
Southampton is by far the most reliable source using live data updated every 10 minutes out to 5/6 days. It used to be 10 days which was incredibly useful back in the good old days when ships ran on time (pre 2020).
The efficiency of port operations were in a large part down to the skill of the port schedulers and planners who were often working weeks or months in advance. If a ship missed her scheduled port booking slot it could be a financial disaster for the ship and so ships generally ran on time on schedules that were planned months earlier. Now we are looking at provisional bookings and 'dynamic' port scheduling. Very few ports had systems in place to handle 'dynamic' tasking successfully but they are learning fast in the new normality.

 

[Mr Miserable]

Who in the world will pay for such informations ?!? ... it is just ship tracking ... and a kind of lottery .. especially for a waiting one like me

I will tell you - for a fee.

 

[_SunShine]

I will tell you - for a fee.

Thanks .... but I keep my Euros in pocket to get maybe some equipment for my M3LR

 

[Abernus]

Mr M. Thanks for all the info. Looks like my original delivery of November well now be December as I have no VIN yet (ordered 5th Sept). So I will be watching your updates for that potential ship arriving in December.

 

[Levram_Noam]

Mr m what about israel cargo ship

 

[Levram_Noam]

Hey Mr m, love from israel
Do you know what is the name of the cargo ship that will arrive in november and her est arrival in ashdod

 

[Washout]

Who in the world will pay for such informations ?!? ... it is just ship tracking ... and a kind of lottery .. especially for a waiting one like me

I wouldn't be surprised to find some folks with money and/or "weight" trying to scalp/manipulate the market (although Tesla's ordering process should help with that).
Piracy is also still very much a thing these days unfortunately (Captain Phillips was based on real events) and Elon's businesses aren't exactly popular in some circles, because of his mission (and the stuff that enables it).

 

[Milhooz]

LAKE FUXIAN is the first ship that I have seen confirmed by Tesla to one French customer for a Model 3 SR+ with an expected delivery on November 19th. I'll keep looking for more ships confirmations this quarter.
Please if you get a VIN, please try to ask Tesla the ship name, it works usually well via the online chat.

 

[Mr Miserable]

Hey Mr m, love from israel
Do you know what is the name of the cargo ship that will arrive in november and her est arrival in ashdod

Nothing spotted yet - in the past, it has been quite late (the ship already in the Red Sea) before the Ashdod call is announced. Looking at the likely schedules of the ships identified so far, LAKE GENEVA might (might) be a possibility.
I'll keep an eye out....

 

[Jayster]

Please if you get a VIN, please try to ask Tesla the ship name, it works usually well via the online chat.

I haven't had any luck asking for the ship name on the chat so far.

 

[Deleted member 192894]

Do we know if there are any ships heading for Southampton yet carrying SR+ or Performance models for a likely delivery late November?

 

[Marmaduke 1169]

Do we know if there are any ships heading for Southampton yet carrying SR+ or Performance models for a likely delivery late November?

3 of my colleagues ordered SR+ the same day I ordered my LR , I'm the only one that has a vin so far , take from that what you will

 

[jsaraiva]

Do we know if there are any ships heading for Southampton yet carrying SR+ or Performance models for a likely delivery late November?

I just had a confirmed delivery SMS for the 4th November but its a LR. Ordered 16 July but missed Q3 delivery due to lessor issues.
For this delivery date the ship must be well underway I think.

 

[NoIceButEV]

DON PASQUALE in Zeebrugge​

 

[nkajkmuk]

Why does the path of Helios Ray look like that of a bumble bee? What’s happening to it? I thought airplanes flew in holding patterns/virtual stacks, but ship could just stop if there is congestion, but Helios Ray seems to be doing assorts of crazy direction changes , I wonder why.