2022 M3P sits higher than my old 2019 M3LR both with 20"s

[Sheefo2k]

Rev. C is new for 2022 3P front dampers, 2018-2021 models had Rev B.

Rear springs have been 1044472-04-A on all 3P's since 2019. They are actually 8mm lower than the 1044472-01-E used on many AWD and RWD models, but otherwise identical (7.2k). Pic shows them side by side:

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Bumping up an old thread, but I got a look at my suspension with my borescope on my February 2022 build M3P. I couldn't see the label on the front springs themselves, but the front damper assemblies are 1044363-04-C and 1044368-04-C for left and right respectively. Rear springs are 1044472-04-A. Both appear to be parts long used on the M3P, so I don't think there was an actual change

Apologies for the low quality images.

Thank you for taking the time to do that. So to make sure I am understanding this correctly, the front springs for the 2022 M3P are now on rev C?

 

[Gauss Guzzler]

3P front springs have been 1044379-04-B since 2018 but changed to rev C for 2022
3P front dampers have been 1044363/8-04-B since 2018 but changed to rev C for 2022

3P rear springs have been 1044472-04-A from 2019 thru 2022
3P rear dampers have been 1044461-01-E from 2019 thru 2022 and are also used on LR models.

 

[tm1v2]

3P front springs have been 1044379-04-B since 2018 but changed to rev C for 2022
3P front dampers have been 1044363/8-04-B since 2018 but changed to rev C for 2022

3P rear springs have been 1044472-04-A from 2019 thru 2022
3P rear dampers have been 1044461-01-E from 2019 thru 2022 and are also used on LR models.

My October 2021 Fremont built M3P came with rev C front springs and dampers. I guess rev B -> C wasn't strictly along model year lines, like most Tesla changes.

 

[Mateo83]

We have 2018 M3 loaner for a couple weeks it feels so low compared to 22 MYP.

 

[Sheefo2k]

3P front springs have been 1044379-04-B since 2018 but changed to rev C for 2022
3P front dampers have been 1044363/8-04-B since 2018 but changed to rev C for 2022

3P rear springs have been 1044472-04-A from 2019 thru 2022
3P rear dampers have been 1044461-01-E from 2019 thru 2022 and are also used on LR models.

Informative. I am looking forward to accepting delivery in the next few weeks and seeing if I will notice a difference between the test drive vehicle (October 2021) and mine. Thanks for providing that information .

 

[Gauss Guzzler]

My October 2021 Fremont built M3P came with rev C front springs and dampers.

October 2021 models were sold with "lowered suspension" so it's interesting that your car has the same setup as 2022's without lowered suspension. Maybe that's why people have always complained that the 3P doesn't seem to be any lower than the LR model.

 

[tm1v2]

October 2021 models were sold with "lowered suspension" so it's interesting that your car has the same setup as 2022's without lowered suspension. Maybe that's why people have always complained that the 3P doesn't seem to be any lower than the LR model.

Yup Tesla was still advertising the lower suspension when I bought mine.

Personally I didn't want lower, even M3LR ground clearance is already on the low side to me. I was however disappointed that the M3P suspension didn't feel any better or really any different at all from M3LR, that I could tell from my test drives (also October 2021 cars).

The wheel+tire difference came through clearly but I couldn't really feel much difference beyond that. I actually got the M3P bouncing around worse because it had more grip, but didn't have a better suspension to keep up with the extra grip.

 

[terranx]

Yeah I do wish Tesla did something akin to BMW M's treatment with bespoke bushings, control arms, dampers, etc

 

[jackmott]

Yeah I do wish Tesla did something akin to BMW M's treatment with bespoke bushings, control arms, dampers, etc

I've got a whole plan for an ///M Model 3:

• Rear wheel drive, with the Plaid rear cradle in the back. Deletes the mass of two open differentials, replace with torque vectoring, plus a bit more power and more central weight distribution.
• Combine the above with a new gear ratio that improves power at high speed
• Carbon Fiber quarter panels, rear trunk, and Roof (instead of glass)
• Carbon Ceramic Brakes (drops weight, better braking)
• 255 front / 275 rear tires
• Slightly lower, stiffer suspension

 

[tm1v2]

I've got a whole plan for an ///M Model 3:

• Rear wheel drive, with the Plaid rear cradle in the back. Deletes the mass of two open differentials, replace with torque vectoring, plus a bit more power and more central weight distribution.
• Combine the above with a new gear ratio that improves power at high speed
• Carbon Fiber quarter panels, rear trunk, and Roof (instead of glass)
• Carbon Ceramic Brakes (drops weight, better braking)
• 255 front / 275 rear tires
• Slightly lower, stiffer suspension

I like AWD, I came from rally-inspired ICE cars, but what you suggest would be pretty awesome.

Make a quad motor version on square tires+wheels, that is *not* lowered but does have really good damping/suspension for handling on rough roads, and I'm there.

I've got the good suspension part on my car now, at stock height as I like it, but I still need to figure out that quad motor swap...

 

[terranx]

Ha, I'd be okay with

I've got a whole plan for an ///M Model 3:

• Rear wheel drive, with the Plaid rear cradle in the back. Deletes the mass of two open differentials, replace with torque vectoring, plus a bit more power and more central weight distribution.
• Combine the above with a new gear ratio that improves power at high speed
• Carbon Fiber quarter panels, rear trunk, and Roof (instead of glass)
• Carbon Ceramic Brakes (drops weight, better braking)
• 255 front / 275 rear tires
• Slightly lower, stiffer suspension

Throw in some chassis tweaks (solidly mounted subframes, various bushings replaced with ball joints, wider front and rear track width) and that sounds glorious. Would definitely cost 6 figures though.

 

[Peter Kozovski]

Rev. C is new for 2022 3P front dampers, 2018-2021 models had Rev B.

Rear springs have been 1044472-04-A on all 3P's since 2019. They are actually 8mm lower than the 1044472-01-E used on many AWD and RWD models, but otherwise identical (7.2k). Pic shows them side by side:

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@Gauss Guzzler do you know if the 1044368-04-B damper/front spring set up sits lower by 8mm as well? similar to the rear?
I have a 22LR and I want to change the suspension to the 2018-2021 suspension so the car will sit abit lower?

Rear springs have been 1044472-04-A on all 3P's since 2019. They are actually 8mm lower than the 1044472-01-E

 

[Gauss Guzzler]

The Performance 1044368-04-B shock is paired with spring 1044379-04-B and shares the same 4.3kgf/mm rate as the LR front spring of the same era (1044379-02-D). I measured the free length of the Performance spring to be 2mm shorter so theoretically it should ride 2mm lower, but in practice you can't accurately correlate ride height with free length, and 2mm is negligible anyway.

I don't know anything about 2022 springs but from what I know of the earlier variants, I think you're unlikely to find any meaningful difference between them. And if you do, it will probably be unpredictable. Get aftermarket springs if you want a meaningful change in ride height.