2022 Model 3 RWD LFP observations?

[Terry F]

I have only driven 420 miles since new over almost 4 weeks but the average power use (as per graph app in car) consistently shows an average of 230-250Wh/mile. So is it fair to say that this is roughly 4 mile per KWh and I think the LFP battery has 60KWh useable - so a max range of 240 miles given the way I drive? I have done a few short (3-4 mile) stretches on dual carriageway at 70ish and the graph heads up towards 500Wh/mile when I do that, but those stints would be factored into my average. Not many 70mph limits where I live anyway.

Also, out of interest, do the M3 RWD LFP batteries use the 2170 cells or are these pouch cells? I can't seem to find anything authoritative about this. TIA

 

[kelvin 660]

Your wh/mile will vary with temperature. The colder the temperature the higher the wh/mile.

Also the shorter the journey the higher the wh/mile as it has to heat up (or cool down) the cabin. And that takes more in the begining.

The faster you travel the higher the wh/mile.

The wh/mile can go between <300 (winter to >200 (summer).

The car only records wh/mile when in "drive" and not what is used when preconditioning, etc.

The cells are primastic (in a box like structure like blade batteries).

 

[Mrklaw]

60kwh gross - seems about 55kwh usable

Simple math will get you an estimate - like you say 4 miles per kWh even if you’re driving partly at 70 as long as you don’t have a heavy right foot should be ok. But Be careful multiplying that by 55 to get range - eg 220 miles (4x55).

that works if you do all those miles in one go as an estimate, but not stop start. You wouldn’t get 22 trips of 10 miles each from the battery for example. Normally doesn’t matter because with short trips you are hopefully back home in between so you can top up but that can be something to factor in if you are relying on public charging

 

[MichalT]

60kwh gross - seems about 55kwh usable

Simple math will get you an estimate - like you say 4 miles per kWh even if you’re driving partly at 70 as long as you don’t have a heavy right foot should be ok. But Be careful multiplying that by 55 to get range - eg 220 miles (4x55).

that works if you do all those miles in one go as an estimate, but not stop start. You wouldn’t get 22 trips of 10 miles each from the battery for example. Normally doesn’t matter because with short trips you are hopefully back home in between so you can top up but that can be something to factor in if you are relying on public charging

Seems to be 60kWh usable, just got out second Tesla Module 3 2022 LFP and after 4 charging sessions, below is what Tessie thinks the capacity is.

 

[Z1ppy]

I have done a few 70 mile mostly motorway journeys since picking mine up last month. Sticking as close to 70 mph as traffic will allow I was getting 210-220 wh/mile. Around the city with some short 70 mph stints was under 200 wh/mile in the warmer weather a couple of weeks back, now about 240 wh/mile on the same journey in colder weather.

 

[MichalT]

27 mile journey, lots of roundabouts and a stint at 50 (road works) , 278 average.

 

[SR-Plus]

I have done a few 70 mile mostly motorway journeys since picking mine up last month. Sticking as close to 70 mph as traffic will allow I was getting 210-220 wh/mile. Around the city with some short 70 mph stints was under 200 wh/mile in the warmer weather a couple of weeks back, now about 240 wh/mile on the same journey in colder weather.

Yes in this warmer weather, I’ve been getting around 210-220wh/mile at 70mph

 

[Cantonalegod]

60kwh gross - seems about 55kwh usable

Simple math will get you an estimate - like you say 4 miles per kWh even if you’re driving partly at 70 as long as you don’t have a heavy right foot should be ok. But Be careful multiplying that by 55 to get range - eg 220 miles (4x55).

that works if you do all those miles in one go as an estimate, but not stop start. You wouldn’t get 22 trips of 10 miles each from the battery for example. Normally doesn’t matter because with short trips you are hopefully back home in between so you can top up but that can be something to factor in if you are relying on public charging

I think the gross is around 62.3kWh, with a usable of around 58.5kWh according to Bjorn

 

[inimic]

Greetings, is the HP value of 245 that I can see online the correct rating for the RWD LFP?

 

[Cantonalegod]

It's 283 bhp, down from 320 last year!

 

[Buzzliteyear]

Elevation is another factor to consider, at weekends I do the same 90 mile round trip. In the outward bound part I use more energy, than the return part. All because I am climbing going and descending on my return. The difference is 2-3 KWh or upto .75WHm.

 

[inimic]

It's 283 bhp, down from 320 last year!

When I look on Autotrader, even the '21 models are listed @244. Any idea why?

 

[inimic]

I found this.

Model 3 Owner's Manual | Tesla

Learn about the various subsystem components and their specifications in your vehicle.

www.tesla.com

Anyone know which motor the new LFP has?

 

[Cantonalegod]

When I look on Autotrader, even the '21 models are listed @244. Any idea why?

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No, not a clue!

It's listed on my V5 as 208kW, which is 283bhp, and is exactly as I expected, having read loads of various forum posts before mine was delivered in March.

The 8th VIN letter determines the motor type, in my case this is S, which is the newer hairpin type motor.

Last years SR+ model used the rear performance motor which was 239kw (320bhp).

There was a slightly "fuzzy" period towards the end of the year, (as there generally is when Tesla change stuff), and a few people were lucky enough to get the performance motor on a new spec car, they were termed "Unicorns"

 

[Buzzliteyear]

No, not a clue!

It's listed on my V5 as 208kW, which is 283bhp, and is exactly as I expected, having read loads of various forum posts before mine was delivered in March.

The 8th VIN letter determines the motor type, in my case this is S, which is the newer hairpin type motor.

Last years SR+ model used the rear performance motor which was 239kw (320bhp).

There was a slightly "fuzzy" period towards the end of the year, (as there generally is when Tesla change stuff), and a few people were lucky enough to get the performance motor on a new spec car, they were termed "Unicorns"

Mine isn't an S, so hopefully it's a unicorn. Still yet to prove it by the 0-60 time.

 

[robbieduncan]

When I look on Autotrader, even the '21 models are listed @244. Any idea why?

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Because Autotrader is pretty poor. The dealer/lister does not get to enter those details. You tell them what sort of car it is and the populate from a database that is frequently inaccurate. If you know better you are probably right!

 

[BillN]

Mine’s an S, and is definitely more relaxed from a stop than older RWD cars I test drove. However, when rolling it feels strong. OBD scanner reveals max power of 224 kW (300 hp), so far.

 

[Algy]

I've had my Model 3 RWD LFP since December, currently at over 11,000 miles and an average of 240wh/mile across that!
I don't hesitate to use the full acceleration whenever the opportunies arise and I still get pretty good wh/mile.

I did a 1,200 mile roadtrip up to Scotland with 4 other people in the car and all our camping gear and I averaged 242wh/mile over the whole trip. I even managed under 200wh/mile for some of it which was surprising!

 

[VTECMattes]

I tend to get roughly around 240 miles per full charge, found recently now it has become warmer I’m getting around 260 miles per full charge. I tend to do 50 to 70 miles a day.

 

[Cantonalegod]

Mine isn't an S, so hopefully it's a unicorn. Still yet to prove it by the 0-60 time.

A or J as an educated guess