So new 2022 MX LR is coming Monday. Reserved Jan 3, 2021 so I'm locked in at a good price. Just got trade offer from Tesla on the old X and WOW it's good, so getting the new X, 'cons' listed below and all.
'Old one' is a late 9-2020, H-pack battery with 371 mile EPA LR+ Red/White, 20s, 5 seat, FSD. Bought May of 2021 as too impatient waiting for new one. Good thing as 13 months later and just now getting one ordered 17 months ago.
'New one' is a 2022 348 mile EPA LR Blue, cream, 20s, 5 seat, NO FSD
Pro of new:
-Quieter. Hearing the interior is quieter and the 2020 is NOT a quiet car on the highway.
-Warrantee resets to 0 miles. Old is already 1/2 way to done at 26k miles and afraid of owning a Tesla out of warrantee as parts seem expensive (front axles etc.) and its had 4 things go wrong that needed 4 trips for fixing in 1 year at 360 miles round trip to the Service Center (worse reliability than any other car we own right now in family, Chevy, Caddy, Ford and a Kia)
-Is the color and interior we wanted back in Jan 2021 when ordered (Blue 5 seat with Cream) Existing is Red/White 5 seat. I like the red/white, wife wants blue and cream.
-Heat pump should help with cold weather distance loss. Being in Wi, the 2020 takes a bad hit below 25 deg F. Compensates for less overall range (see cons)
-Better high beams? Even w/o matrix, sounds like new lights are better. Lows were ok before but highs not worthy to be on a $100K car.
-Better passenger HVAC. Wife always complains air flow to passenger is so limited. Looking at the small side of the far right vent, I can see why.
-Cooled seats. Should help with HVAC lacking.
Con of new:
-Less distance. EPA is 348 vs 371 rating of old. BAD! Teslas rarely gets rating, but should be able to compare model to model so this sucks. Looking into this, Tesla is not honest on the website right now . Says 351est, but EPA is 348 for the LR with 20" tires. Appears to be the same battery, but the MPGe is LESS on the new one EPA rating(Hyway MPGe 101 old, 97 new) Aero doesn't look much different and heard tires on the same so must be the motor changes for the 520->670HP bump. Didn't ask for this HP increase as it will probably chew up axels faster. Would REALLY have liked a 400 mile EPA, They are going the wrong way! (Makes sense as heard they switched from an induction motor in the rear to a permanent magnet. I believe induction motors can free wheel easier when not being used, so the new rear motor is a distance drag. Sucks.
-Existing battery is down 4.8% in 26K miles to 353 miles at 100%. That loss is always worse in first year, so I need to go back and have the largest decrease(1st year) on a car that doesn't go as far to start with. Winter is really my problem so hope the heat pump makes up for that decrease.
-Yoke: at best might find is acceptable but surly a "change for the sake of change" that NO ONE was asking for.
-Lack of stalks. This might be worse than the yoke. Since auto highs and auto wipers SUCK and assume they will still SUCK, having a stalk to control each is a big positive. Along with a moving target for the turn signal 'button' seems WAY worse for a quick action where decide to lane change NOW.
-Will heat pump even work in the winter? Sounds like Canadians have lots of problems with the 3 and Y in the cold. Fix seems to be, oh it works again in May. THAT will cause wife to really hate this thing!
-New Christmas tree show is not as good. At the end, the new one just stops, all doors open. Seems like the intern working on this never finished it. See can create own, but that takes time and effort to fix what we use to have.
Indifferent:
-Loss of FSD. Not paying for that! Existing one has it. Phantom braking it so bad right now (once every 3 minutes average for our roads) wife hates is "when the car drives" Last trip, turned it off in the menu and regular Auto-Pilot was much better. Just don't like the 5 mph over limit imposed by old Auto Pilot stack, where FSD could go as fast as want. Other than that, standard AP is lots better than FSD as a cruiser on 2 lane highways. Might Miss the interstate stack of FSD as that was decent but don't drive that enough to pay $12K for it!
-Black out, loss of chrome. Think chrome was better but not a big deal, people are in a dark mood right now.
-Matrix Lights, maybe ok, as long as brighter, not a show stopper. Not going to wait for this as may be 2 weeks or 2 years, this is Tesla after all.
-Charger, I am keeping the mobile charger as I AM a person who uses in when travel to our cabin so don't care that new one doesn't have one.
Questions:
-Should I keep the Abstract Ocean super bright LEDs I installed in the interior? The 2020 interior lights were poor, the after market ones from Abstract Ocean fixed that. Will they fit in the frunk and rear and under seat on the new model
-Should I keep the floor mats? Do the new ones come with mats? Will the old ones fit?
Thank, getting excited!
Like said, while writing this a very nice trade offer came in and new one it is!
'Old one' is a late 9-2020, H-pack battery with 371 mile EPA LR+ Red/White, 20s, 5 seat, FSD. Bought May of 2021 as too impatient waiting for new one. Good thing as 13 months later and just now getting one ordered 17 months ago.
'New one' is a 2022 348 mile EPA LR Blue, cream, 20s, 5 seat, NO FSD
Pro of new:
-Quieter. Hearing the interior is quieter and the 2020 is NOT a quiet car on the highway.
-Warrantee resets to 0 miles. Old is already 1/2 way to done at 26k miles and afraid of owning a Tesla out of warrantee as parts seem expensive (front axles etc.) and its had 4 things go wrong that needed 4 trips for fixing in 1 year at 360 miles round trip to the Service Center (worse reliability than any other car we own right now in family, Chevy, Caddy, Ford and a Kia)
-Is the color and interior we wanted back in Jan 2021 when ordered (Blue 5 seat with Cream) Existing is Red/White 5 seat. I like the red/white, wife wants blue and cream.
-Heat pump should help with cold weather distance loss. Being in Wi, the 2020 takes a bad hit below 25 deg F. Compensates for less overall range (see cons)
-Better high beams? Even w/o matrix, sounds like new lights are better. Lows were ok before but highs not worthy to be on a $100K car.
-Better passenger HVAC. Wife always complains air flow to passenger is so limited. Looking at the small side of the far right vent, I can see why.
-Cooled seats. Should help with HVAC lacking.
Con of new:
-Less distance. EPA is 348 vs 371 rating of old. BAD! Teslas rarely gets rating, but should be able to compare model to model so this sucks. Looking into this, Tesla is not honest on the website right now . Says 351est, but EPA is 348 for the LR with 20" tires. Appears to be the same battery, but the MPGe is LESS on the new one EPA rating(Hyway MPGe 101 old, 97 new) Aero doesn't look much different and heard tires on the same so must be the motor changes for the 520->670HP bump. Didn't ask for this HP increase as it will probably chew up axels faster. Would REALLY have liked a 400 mile EPA, They are going the wrong way! (Makes sense as heard they switched from an induction motor in the rear to a permanent magnet. I believe induction motors can free wheel easier when not being used, so the new rear motor is a distance drag. Sucks.
-Existing battery is down 4.8% in 26K miles to 353 miles at 100%. That loss is always worse in first year, so I need to go back and have the largest decrease(1st year) on a car that doesn't go as far to start with. Winter is really my problem so hope the heat pump makes up for that decrease.
-Yoke: at best might find is acceptable but surly a "change for the sake of change" that NO ONE was asking for.
-Lack of stalks. This might be worse than the yoke. Since auto highs and auto wipers SUCK and assume they will still SUCK, having a stalk to control each is a big positive. Along with a moving target for the turn signal 'button' seems WAY worse for a quick action where decide to lane change NOW.
-Will heat pump even work in the winter? Sounds like Canadians have lots of problems with the 3 and Y in the cold. Fix seems to be, oh it works again in May. THAT will cause wife to really hate this thing!
-New Christmas tree show is not as good. At the end, the new one just stops, all doors open. Seems like the intern working on this never finished it. See can create own, but that takes time and effort to fix what we use to have.
Indifferent:
-Loss of FSD. Not paying for that! Existing one has it. Phantom braking it so bad right now (once every 3 minutes average for our roads) wife hates is "when the car drives" Last trip, turned it off in the menu and regular Auto-Pilot was much better. Just don't like the 5 mph over limit imposed by old Auto Pilot stack, where FSD could go as fast as want. Other than that, standard AP is lots better than FSD as a cruiser on 2 lane highways. Might Miss the interstate stack of FSD as that was decent but don't drive that enough to pay $12K for it!
-Black out, loss of chrome. Think chrome was better but not a big deal, people are in a dark mood right now.
-Matrix Lights, maybe ok, as long as brighter, not a show stopper. Not going to wait for this as may be 2 weeks or 2 years, this is Tesla after all.
-Charger, I am keeping the mobile charger as I AM a person who uses in when travel to our cabin so don't care that new one doesn't have one.
Questions:
-Should I keep the Abstract Ocean super bright LEDs I installed in the interior? The 2020 interior lights were poor, the after market ones from Abstract Ocean fixed that. Will they fit in the frunk and rear and under seat on the new model
-Should I keep the floor mats? Do the new ones come with mats? Will the old ones fit?
Thank, getting excited!
Like said, while writing this a very nice trade offer came in and new one it is!