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2023 Model 3 Standard range RWD have comfort suspension?
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@m888x Model 3 has long had better ride quality and overall better suspension tuning than Model Y. When I test drove MYLR M3LR M3P in fall 2021, both the Model 3's rode much better than the MYLR (even M3P with the super low profile tires). Both 3's were also more fun to drive around turns, as is usually the case comparing a sedan to a crossover.
I haven't driven an LFP RWD Model 3, but I'd bet it rides at least as good as the new "comfort" Model Y suspension, if not better.
Last I knew every Model 3 came with matrix headlights, except when Tesla temporarily ran out of the parts and suddenly they didn't.
I haven't kept up with matrix headlight availability though. Unfortunately that shortage incident made it clear Tesla doesn't promise that any given car will have them.
I haven't driven an LFP RWD Model 3, but I'd bet it rides at least as good as the new "comfort" Model Y suspension, if not better.
Last I knew every Model 3 came with matrix headlights, except when Tesla temporarily ran out of the parts and suddenly they didn't.
I haven't kept up with matrix headlight availability though. Unfortunately that shortage incident made it clear Tesla doesn't promise that any given car will have them.
mgs333
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Model 3 and Y have different suspensions, whether the Model Y gets newer suspension components have no bearing on the Model 3.
I rented a MYLR a bit before I bought my Model 3 RWD and the MYLR was stiffer and more bouncy/less composed over bumps.
I got a 2023 RWD in December and checked the suspension parts against the parts catalog and saw that there are no new suspension parts for the 3 and mine is using the same parts that have been in use for a while. Elon tweeted that 3 / Y got upgraded comfort suspension in October, but as far as everyone can tell, he misspoke and meant to just say Y.
My friend went from a 2018 M3 to a 2021 MY and he said the MY had a much better ride, in his opinion.@m888x Model 3 has long had better ride quality and overall better suspension tuning than Model Y. When I test drove MYLR M3LR M3P in fall 2021, both the Model 3's rode much better than the MYLR (even M3P with the super low profile tires). Both 3's were also more fun to drive around turns, as is usually the case comparing a sedan to a crossover.
I haven't driven an LFP RWD Model 3, but I'd bet it rides at least as good as the new "comfort" Model Y suspension, if not better.
Last I knew every Model 3 came with matrix headlights, except when Tesla temporarily ran out of the parts and suddenly they didn't.
Well the Model 3 did get new suspension as well according to that tweet but I think it may have said just LR.
That's very interesting. I was looking for evidence and what you say seems to be more factual than what these reviews and only 1 video I found state to me.
Unfortunate for me not to know.
In my research a few reviews did definitely claim going from even a 21-22 to a 23 Model 3 that it did improve. And this video:
That's very interesting. I was looking for evidence and what you say seems to be more factual than what these reviews and only 1 video I found state to me.
Unfortunate for me not to know.
In my research a few reviews did definitely claim going from even a 21-22 to a 23 Model 3 that it did improve. And this video:
Yes, because that's comparing 2018 to 2021. The Model 3 has also been softened up over the years. Older ones were firmer.
Edit: My personal experience driving pre-2021 Model 3 is limited. I can say firsthand though an early 2018 RWD is easily firmer than a 2021 M3P or M3LR AWD.
From what I've gathered on these forums, apparently the first major softening of the Model 3 suspension happened sometime in 2018. Possibly before the AWD Model 3 was launched. The second major softening happened around beginning of 2021, such that most or all 2021 model year got it.
I don't know if that 2018 Model 3 I've driven (briefly) is from before or after the mid-2018 softening. Either way, there's very consistent reports that 2021+ Model 3 are significantly softer than 2020 and earlier, and my limited experience matches that.
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I've had lots of conflicting reports calling service technicians, etc. One said the 1000 lbs extra on the Y might help it's ride but I know it's just the new suspension parts.
One said she had a 22 M3 LR like me and drove a 23 and said she didn't notice any difference.
I will be driving a LFP soon myself and report back on that one.
One said she had a 22 M3 LR like me and drove a 23 and said she didn't notice any difference.
I will be driving a LFP soon myself and report back on that one.
I just traded a 20 m3 sr+ for a 2023 sr+ I didn't notice any difference with the suspension. My wife, however, hated the ride of the 20. Her initial comment about the 23 was it was a little better.
ymmv.
ymmv.
I had a 2020 M3LR loaner recently, built Dec 2019. It had the standard 18" wheels and Tesla-spec 235/35R18 Michelin Primacy MXM4 tires.
It's been almost a year since I swapped out my stock suspension, but from memory I'm pretty sure my Oct 2021 M3P rode smoother when on stock suspension with 18" wheels, at least over mild imperfections.
Honestly I was fine with the 2020 M3LR ride. It wasn't great by any means but I'm more into sporty feel than soft floaty ride anyways. I think the 2020 M3LR suspension felt sportier and handled somewhat better than my 2021 M3P's stock suspension which really wasn't sporty. (It's difficult to judge handling on a car saddled with MXM4 tires.
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The 2020 M3LR must ride better than the 2021 MYLR I once tested because I couldn't stand that MYLR's ride.
It's been almost a year since I swapped out my stock suspension, but from memory I'm pretty sure my Oct 2021 M3P rode smoother when on stock suspension with 18" wheels, at least over mild imperfections.
Honestly I was fine with the 2020 M3LR ride. It wasn't great by any means but I'm more into sporty feel than soft floaty ride anyways. I think the 2020 M3LR suspension felt sportier and handled somewhat better than my 2021 M3P's stock suspension which really wasn't sporty. (It's difficult to judge handling on a car saddled with MXM4 tires.
)The 2020 M3LR must ride better than the 2021 MYLR I once tested because I couldn't stand that MYLR's ride.
Drove the 23' M3 LFP and it rode I believe exactly the same as my 22' M3 LR. Drove mine there and then test drove it. Then drove off on same roads. So, for me, I know the LFP rides exactly the same. I also forgot to write when I was calling service tech's that they said the parts for M3 did appear to be unchanged as well.
rotarypower101
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If anyone can comment, how much different does the suspension feel with the various wheels sizes avalible? 18" > 19" > 20"
Is it even noticeable? And if so where specifically?
Is it even noticeable? And if so where specifically?
@rotarypower101 Changing wheel size / tire sidewall is noticeable, but it doesn't change the feeling of the suspension. That's separate. Neither is a substitute for the other. I've changed out both on my car, first wheel downsizing, then suspension/coilovers.
Going from 235/35R20 to 245/45R18 while still on stock suspension, the extra sidewall smoothed out the small stuff, and took the edge off the ride, but it didn't transform the ride at all. The car still essentially rode the same, except with less harshness. Noticeable improvement? Definitely. Transformative? No. The ride was overall smoother but the stock suspension (2021 M3P) still struggled for composure over rough stuff, same as before.
rotarypower101
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Thank you for commenting on that detail, looking for information on wheel size "feel" and hard to find someone explicitly making that comparison and distinction that has physically tried and tested wheel sizes on these and given feedback clearly.
If anyone has looked into the topic, also searching for differences in Model 3 suspension between the different years and trims for those years if anyone possibly knows that , or has found a thread detailing those changes and differences that exist?
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electrikcuban
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This is my first Tesla - 23 M3RWD, and I can tell you my VW Jetta GLI rode a lot smoother on the stock adjustable suspension set to sport setting (hardest).
My wife and some other family members don't like it too much, but hey, it's my car, so tough luck.
My wife and some other family members don't like it too much, but hey, it's my car, so tough luck.
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