2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

[SO16]

Now they just need to turn the actual USS off on cars that have them, like they did with the radar.

I bet that would get these owners riled up even more.

Well, my USS don’t work in winter when covered with snow/ice and then it keeps beeping stating the USS is unavailable. So if it improves that, go for it.

My USS get covered up far sooner than the cameras. Also easier/quicker to clean the cameras.

 

[shyboy]

Tesla rolls out Park Assistance measurement system for vision-only cars

A known Tesla hacker has observed that Park Assist distance measurement is rolling out to cars not equipped with ultrasonic sensors.

www.teslarati.com

Update release 3/19/2023. Did anyone received this update notification?

Did you try and experience the Tesla Vision without USS?
How is your parking experience with this?

Any trick to push this update?
I have MYLR+7 no FSD

TIA

 

[E90alex]

This is an FSD beta only release. Non FSD beta cars are up to 2023.6.x

No way to request or push an update to your car. You get it when Tesla decides your car is worthy of getting it.

 

[Tonedog77]

all i can say is the FSD v11 is incredible, got the update yesterday 4 hour drive and its truly night and day over v10

 

[arbitrage000]

Hopefully some FSD Beta user has a non-USS car and can post some videos to show how well this is working.
But all the established YouTube FSD Beta testers have cars with USS.

Maybe someone can do a month's subscription on their non-USS car and test this out?

 

[RRKR]

do we know when it is rolled to all cars which do not have USS?

 

[shyboy]

How long is the FSD Beta trial last?
I bought MYLR without FSD, have no USS but I do see an option to signup for FSD trial.

I was waiting until May when I have a long drive scheduled.

 

[Flemingo]

Hopefully some FSD Beta user has a non-USS car and can post some videos to show how well this is working.
But all the established YouTube FSD Beta testers have cars with USS.

Maybe someone can do a month's subscription on their non-USS car and test this out?

Sadly we’ve seen these (possibly mocked up) graphics based stories before, but with no video proof.

Apparently it is available for non-USS cars…who in their right mind would have paid for FSD on a non-USS car with so many features disabled. Must be a VERY small test community!

And apparently in a 2022 software update…ok so that means it has been in the wild for 2+ months?? Still no videos??

I guess we are all desperate enough to believe (or at least hope) that there is some truth in these stories. For me, it doesn’t stack up.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Sadly we’ve seen these (possibly mocked up) graphics based stories before, but with no video proof.

Apparently it is available for non-USS cars…who in their right mind would have paid for FSD on a non-USS car with so many features disabled. Must be a VERY small test community!

And apparently in a 2022 software update…ok so that means it has been in the wild for 2+ months?? Still no videos??

I guess we are all desperate enough to believe (or at least hope) that there is some truth in these stories. For me, it doesn’t stack up.

FYI FSD Beta runs on a different branch, just because it says 2022.45.11 doesn't mean it's 2022 software, rather this is brand spanking new, with the general FSD Beta YouTubers having just got it.

 

[DanDi58]

do we know when it is rolled to all cars which do not have USS?

Two weeks.

 

[arbitrage000]

Sadly we’ve seen these (possibly mocked up) graphics based stories before, but with no video proof.

Apparently it is available for non-USS cars…who in their right mind would have paid for FSD on a non-USS car with so many features disabled. Must be a VERY small test community!

And apparently in a 2022 software update…ok so that means it has been in the wild for 2+ months?? Still no videos??

I guess we are all desperate enough to believe (or at least hope) that there is some truth in these stories. For me, it doesn’t stack up.

Well USS has no function during FSD or AP. It is for parking. So if someone is willing to buy FSD it would likely be for the City Beta features (and now new hwy code). Therefore USS sensors wouldn't really affect the purchase decision. It would more likely affect the decision to buy EAP as that is mostly USS features other than auto lane change and nav on AP.
FSD runs on a different software branch and the 2022 branch which supposedly includes the Vision park distances (but no EAP parking features) only came out on Saturday evening. FSD hasn't had a 2023.X.X FW yet.

 

[Eden77]

 

[gt2690b]

Well, my USS don’t work in winter when covered with snow/ice and then it keeps beeping stating the USS is unavailable. So if it improves that, go for it.

My USS get covered up far sooner than the cameras. Also easier/quicker to clean the cameras.

Your snow must be too wet I've not had that experience USS works right through

 

[SO16]

Your snow must be too wet I've not had that experience USS works right through

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It’s not every snowfall. But it does happen a few times a season and it happens when it’s wet snow or quite icy.

 

[tangible1]

LOL! I’ve crashed my new car into my garage while parking twice! Wishing first 2 weeks- trying to park. My 2018 Subaru is 100% better. I will not buy another Tesla.

someone had too much coffee while parking.
or, is just trolling (8 comments)

 

[PeHoBe]

someone had too much coffee while parking.
or, is just trolling (8 comments)

Well, I cancelled my order with delivery on March 31st because of the lack of parking aid or an at-par solution... Buying a European brand again instead... Better finish and less surprises

 

[Arrosto]

Tempted to upgrade to (or, better, trial) FSD, in order to see how it works ...
For those still not believing that, there's already a full video from a user with USS that detached them physically and discovered the car measuring distances anyway and with some good accuracy.
This to say that the non-USS park assist and distance measurements are live since months, in quite mode, on all USS equipped Teslas, working as backup of the USS-based measurements and for benchmarking (USS vs Vision) in background during normal use.

 

[PeHoBe]

Here's the full post: Anyone else considering refusing delivery of Model Y? (USS)

 

[jeewee3000]

Tempted to upgrade to (or, better, trial) FSD, in order to see how it works ...
For those still not believing that, there's already a full video from a user with USS that detached them physically and discovered the car measuring distances anyway and with some good accuracy.
This to say that the non-USS park assist and distance measurements are live since months, in quite mode, on all USS equipped Teslas, working as backup of the USS-based measurements and for benchmarking (USS vs Vision) in background during normal use.

So the legend goes, indeed.

I find it very disappointing that Tesla does not openly communicate about the steps they are making to get the software out there to us non-USS vehicle owners. We should be getting monthly newsletters in our e-mail inbox from Tesla AI team about this stuff.

 

[Paprika]

Here's the full post: Anyone else considering refusing delivery of Model Y? (USS)

Cool story...bye.