21” arachnid or 19” base

[Ofarlig]

I’d never pick 21” over 19”, the comfort level and range loss is significant enough for that.

 

[lbowroom]

Really wish the new Arachnids came with a 285-35 instead of a 295-30.

You really think the ~1/8” sidewall height difference between the front 265-35 and the rear 295-30 will make any difference? I’ll be considering whether a 305-30 will fit back there when it’s time to change.

 

[Drew-MS]

You really think the ~1/8” sidewall height difference between the front 265-35 and the rear 295-30 will make any difference? I’ll be considering whether a 305-30 will fit back there when it’s time to change.

Since I already had pot hole issues with the 265-35 rear tires on my P100D, I’m really not interested in a 295-30. Ideally I want 265-40-20 front and 295-35-20 rear.
IMO a 305-30-21 will fit but I’d probably stay with the 295s otherwise the wider tire size might throw things off slightly. .

 

[Merle]

Have had both (21" & 19"). In the summer and on good roads run with the 21" tires. In the winter, (fall, winter and spring) I run the 19" tires.

* The 19" tires are more comfortable
* Better snow (mountain-and-snowflake rated) rating
* No crazy rotation with the 19" tires
* Cheaper with the 19" tires
* Any curb rash on the 21" dark rims will show.
* Road noise was nearly identical
* 21" wears a whole lot faster, especially in the rear and inside

Ordered a new Model S and just going with the 19" as I can get the same rims (after market or take-offs) for the same price if not less if I wanted to.

 

[FutureShock]

I’m definitely in the camp that would either go with the 19s, take the aero caps off, and powdercoat them grey; or buy some nice 20s aftermarket.

It kinda sucks that Tesla doesn’t offer a 20” option, as that seems to be the ‘sweet spot’ for the MS. Some competing makes (like Porsche) have no end of wheel options.
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[DukeofURL]

I went with the 19" option on my Plaid+ order (although I think there's a fairly non-zero chance that it will come with a performance wheel/tire package as part of the deal) because A) I already have another set of wheels I'll be putting on for summer and B) I need winter wheels anyway.

 

[Grassright]

I have 21” arachnid and will never go back. It looks and performs MUCH better than my previous 19' wheel. And to my surprise, I don't see any significant range decrease after I upgraded.

 

[BigNick]

I have 21” arachnid and will never go back. It looks and performs MUCH better than my previous 19' wheel. And to my surprise, I don't see any significant range decrease after I upgraded.

Arachnids are generally lighter than the 19-inch wheels. If their widths were identical to the 19s you should see an efficiency boost, but the wheels are physically wider and have a larger contact patch so any efficiency gains from the lighter wheels are lost to friction and aero.

 

[M3LA]

Is it not a common thing (or possible) to paint/plasti dip/powder coat the stock wheel covers? I don’t want to sacrifice the range or ride comfort on my refresh, but I hate the look of the silver portions on the new stock covers.

 

[slainla]

Get the 19s and then buy 21s on the forums. You’ll spend quite a bit less than $4500 and you’ll have two sets of wheels should you ever decide to swap them back.

 

[Hayseed_MS]

Get the 19s and then buy 21s on the forums. You’ll spend quite a bit less than $4500 and you’ll have two sets of wheels should you ever decide to swap them back.

Generally very sound advice, but the refresh wheels are likely a different width (and possible offset) than last year's model.

 

[scrapps]

I've finally gotten around to changing my order back to the 19"s (and red!). Will hopefully be able to find a matching fitment of these once we have confirmed the details on the new wheels. The V-FF 103 Wheel Flow Forged Wheels & Custom Rims | Vorsteiner Wheels Might involve me taking the car to shop and having them measure up and have Vortsteiner make something specific for the new S if they don't have anything suitable. They said that's going to be a few months of waiting Will update this thread as I get more info, if folks are intersted.

 

[46&2]

The decision also depends on what you drive in winter. If you have just one set of wheels... maybe one can / should / might get the 21s. They look great, but that's about it - there are both better and cheaper options on the market.

If you have to drive 2 sets of wheels, as I do (winter tires, and I don't want to change tires, we change complete wheel sets here)... it's a no-brainer NOT to get the 21 option (or whatever Tesla model's big wheel option is). This was the case back in 2015 when I bought my car, and is still true 2021. Here's why:

Option A - buy the 21s from Tesla
- pay 4'800 extra (with taxes, here, 4'500 in USA without tax) to get the 21s.
- you won't get the 19s, as Tesla of course removes these in exchange for the 21s.
- pay another 2'000 (roughly) for a winter set of 19s. Can be cheaper (aftermarket), can be more pricey (Tesla, depending on tire).
-> End up with a car standing on a 21 summer set (Tesla), and a 19 winter set (maybe Tesla) in the garage, having spent around 6500 - 7000 incl. taxes, from base configuration.

Option B - buy 19s from Tesla
- pay 0 extra for the wheels.
- you will get the 19s, as Tesla delivers your car standing on these...
- sell the summer (all season) tires, let's be pessimistic: - 600
- buy winter tires, let's be pessimistic: + 1200 (double the price of the just sold summer tires)
-> End up with a car standing on a 19 winter set (Tesla), having paid around 600 over base configuration for the winter tires. Less, if you are lucke with selling and winter tire choice
-> End up with about 6'000 - 6'500 in your pocket, compared to option A. For this money, you can buy whatever summer set you want.

Of course, this won't be the same if you don't need a winter set.

 

[HAILERS]

I'm getting antsy waiting for any official indication from Elon as to potential delivery dates for the LR Model S I ordered on 1/13. So..... today I test drove a 2017 100D (Red with white interior) at a local used car dealership. Nice car, but it seemed that there was a lot of rumbling noise over every undulation in the road. Pretty much a deal breaker, so the dealer said they would look for the cause and get back to me. On the way home I realized the car had 21" wheels and thought that could be the source of the noise. Any thought?

I question just why anybody would order a S model without first seeing if the Yolk wheel is acceptable. Everything about the 2020 version with Mercedes style stalks is so intuitive while a clunky yolk is not. Just my opinion,

 

[lbowroom]

I question just why anybody would order a S model without first seeing if the Yolk wheel is acceptable. Everything about the 2020 version with Mercedes style stalks is so intuitive while a clunky yolk is not. Just my opinion,

How did you form the opinion that the yoke is non intuitive and clunky? Did you role play it in a VR simulator?

 

[Hayseed_MS]

How did you form the opinion that the yoke is non intuitive and clunky? Did you role play it in a VR simulator?

Maybe he was comparing it to the egg white?

 

[VikH]

Love the updated black/grey Tempest wheels. Anyone switching from Arachnids to Tempest now?

Tesla updates Model S Tempest wheel design and removes red calipers from Plaid S/X

After officially removing the Model S Plaid+ earlier in the day, Tesla has made some other changes to the Design Studio for the Model S and X.

driveteslacanada.ca

 

[Hayseed_MS]

Love the updated black/grey Tempest wheels. Anyone switching from Arachnids to Tempest now?

Tesla updates Model S Tempest wheel design and removes red calipers from Plaid S/X

After officially removing the Model S Plaid+ earlier in the day, Tesla has made some other changes to the Design Studio for the Model S and X.

driveteslacanada.ca

While that is a much better look than the silver hubcap, it will not sway me to switch from the arachnids.

 

[HAILERS]

How did you form the opinion that the yoke is non intuitive and clunky? Did you role play it in a VR simulator? I don't do simulators. I want to actually Drive the car first for Miles before buying. Not around the block on the day of delivery. Serice centers should have a demo model, not a simulator.

 

[lbowroom]

Yeah, I didn't actually think you did a simulator, that was my point. You, like the rest of us have zero experience with a yoke. So how did you form your opinion that the yoke is non intuitive and clunky if you haven't actually touched a real or virtual one?