TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

215 miles one way - Reassure me pls....

Discussion in 'Roadster' started by NigelM, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2011
    Messages:
    13,257
    Location:
    Sarasota, FL
    I've done enough trips in my Roadster but always trips where destination and back was less than 160 miles. Now I'm thinking about a trip across the state which is 215 miles from home..It's a little scary contemplating that there are no known chargepoints along the way (there is a Tesla store and an HPC at the other end) but I'm sure many of you have done that in range mode lots of times without difficulty....right?

    P.S. I'm sure I can control my right foot not to be heavy when driving the Interstate.
     
  2. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

    Joined:
    May 17, 2009
    Messages:
    18,235
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    That's funny you post this. I'm planning on a similar road trip in April but hadn't put the actual addresses in to see how far it was. It's 217 miles so I'd like to know as well. I've only done 160 mile round trips as well. I'm not sure if I'll be able to drive 60 mph on the highways here though.
     
  3. Doug_G

    Doug_G Lead Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2010
    Messages:
    15,848
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    • Full Range Mode charge obviously! Hit Top Up before you leave.
    • Don't go over 55 mph.
    • Use the cruise control to make sure you keep your speed down.
    • Set the VDS so you can see the Wh/mile display.
    • Keep the average Wh/mile no more than 235. That should leave you 20 miles spare range.
    • If you want to go a little faster, try drafting a truck. But keep an eye on Wh/mile to make sure you're getting what you need.
    • Set your GPS to show distance remaining. After 30 miles of the trip start comparing Estimated Range with Distance to Go from the GPS. If the former is bigger than the latter, you're good. Keep an eye on it - very comforting!
    • If it looks like you're going to fall short, SLOW DOWN.
     
  4. Doug_G

    Doug_G Lead Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2010
    Messages:
    15,848
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    Usually there are secondary highways that allow for slower speeds. Plan your route accordingly.
     
  5. ChadS

    ChadS Petroleum is for sissies

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2,399
    That's farther than I like to count on in general, but I think I did 232 miles once. Doug's tips are good. Plus I drove on a flat road on a warm day which helps; it sounds like that should be easy in Florida.
     
  6. cinergi

    cinergi Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Messages:
    2,169
    Location:
    MA
    Keep your EM at or above your IM. If the terrain is hilly, the Wh/m will vary quite a bit and may even freak you out -- let it average out and stick to all these recommendations. Always leave room for mistakes, detours, etc ... and no HVAC.

    I've also noticed Wh/m showing very high during the first portion of the trip while regen is disabled due to range mode charge. Again, don't freak out when you see that happen. (speaking from experience)

    Make sure you have a charged phone and various phone numbers to call (Tesla Roadside, your CA, etc.) and bring the spare mobile with a long *heavy duty* extension cord in case you do get into a situation where you just need to put a few miles of charge in.

    If you hit "unknown range" left, remember that you have about 20 miles (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but drive very gently and no more than 40mph.

    Have you made this particular trip before? (are you familiar with the roads?)
     
  7. Larry Chanin

    Larry Chanin Model S Perf Sig 1055

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,282
    Location:
    Sarasota, Florida
    Hi Nigel,

    Following Doug's advice, you might consider taking Clark Rd (SR-70) East to Arcadia, then Rt-27 South past Palmdale, at about 2/3rds of the way there's an RV Park in Belle Glade a few miles off of Rt-27. Then back on Rt-27 to I-75, then I-595 to I-95 to Dania Beach.

    I've never taken this route, but its still 215 miles along much slower roads with an RV Park (Lotts Trailer Park) along the way just in case. I can't picture driving at 55 mph along Alligator Alley. :scared:

    Food for thought.

    Larry
     
  8. dhrivnak

    dhrivnak Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,150
    Location:
    NE Tennessee
    While I have gone that far on a charge it can be stressful if there is no plan B. You do need to set the cruise and drive for range. As I can tell people I can go far or fast but not both. If you do not run the HVAC and keep the speed at 60 or below I think you will be fine. The unknowns that have bitten me is driving into a strong headwind, or bad rain where I have to run the heat and AC to keep the windows clear. Things like the weather are out of your control.
     
  9. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2011
    Messages:
    13,257
    Location:
    Sarasota, FL
    Great tips guys...Thanks Doug_G especially for the details. Everything in Florida is flat and warm, I know the roads and fortunately if I make the trip it will be later this month when there's no need for HVAC.

    Larry, yes Alligator Alley is the scary bit as it's 85 miles (late in the total distance!) and there's pretty much nowhere to charge from start to finish, but plenty of gators...:crying:
     
  10. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

    Joined:
    May 17, 2009
    Messages:
    18,235
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Good information. Thanks as well and thanks NigelM for starting the thread. Useful information. There's a Nissan dealership halfway along my route. I'm going to see if they'll let me charge there for an hour so that's my backup plan.
     
  11. W.Petefish

    W.Petefish Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,059
    Location:
    North Texas (DFW)
    Ross at Tesla said during the Oct. event that he drove at 62mph going from Dallas to Houston in one charge. (Insert jaw hitting floor here)
     
  12. Dragon

    Dragon Lightning Green Fairytale

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    450
    Location:
    Italy
    215 miles are nothing for the Roadster. I find it not difficult to equival the ideal range. The best approach is double check with the navigation system and slow down if the math does not result positive.
     
  13. mgemmell

    mgemmell Scottish chap

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2012
    Messages:
    317
    Location:
    Madrid, Spain
    Wow! 387Kms. Its flat and about 100m drop, but wow! Must have been behind some 18 wheelers on the way. Has he written up the trip?

    Mark
     
  14. Doug_G

    Doug_G Lead Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2010
    Messages:
    15,848
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    Well that's pretty much the maximum "ideal range". It's certainly achievable, as long as you're careful - and by that I mean stay under 55 mph / 90 kph.
     
  15. Lancelac

    Lancelac 2010 Roadster Sport #690

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2008
    Messages:
    156
    Location:
    Chicago
    I've driven over 230 miles on a charge twice, no elevation changes to speak of, no A/C, no heat, soft top on. At 55, I can consistently match ideal miles, especially if I use cruise control to keep me disciplined.
     
  16. fraccy

    fraccy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    68
    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I know its obvious but don't think anybody mentioned checking your tyre pressures, makes a big difference.
     
  17. Tesla 940

    Tesla 940 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2011
    Messages:
    254
    Location:
    Long Beach, CA & Taos, NM
    Other suggestions

    Drive with the top on. Having the windows up also helps if you can stand it.

    Most of all - find a RV Campground where you and "stretch your legs" for 30 minutes of more.
     
  18. Larry Chanin

    Larry Chanin Model S Perf Sig 1055

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,282
    Location:
    Sarasota, Florida
    Hi Nigel,

    Yes, I might consider Alligator Alley with a 300 mile Model S battery, but with the Roadster that would be very scary to try without stopping to charge at an RV park near Naples.

    On the route I mentioned earlier for the return trip, there's also an RV park located in Arcadia, (Toby's RV Resort) about 3/4 of the way back from Dania Beach.

    Larry
     
  19. Eberhard

    Eberhard #421 Model S #S32

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,141
    Location:
    Germany
    I did 420km last year on my trip from Monaco to Bellinzona. Had still 40km ideal range left. 121 Wh/km
     
  20. mgemmell

    mgemmell Scottish chap

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2012
    Messages:
    317
    Location:
    Madrid, Spain
    That is monumental! I am running at around 180 Wh/km going to and from work... I'll need to work on that. How would you describe your driving on that run? Very slow? With the flow? Behind large trucks?
     

Share This Page